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The factory additional performance tunes are meant to be used with all the factory emissions pieces in place. So no issues using them or the EPA going after the manufactures. Some aftermarket tuners also offer tunes for factory emissions equipment in stock. But I don't think most of those are CARB-approved.
It's the tunes that allow removal and workaround of factory emissions pieces that are the issue. As well as parts that aid the removal of factory emissions pieces.
A good example is my 2011 Mustang GT had the Ford Racing Performance Parts flash tune installed. It ran 11.9x. The aftermarket tune ran 11.44. The factory offered tunes are pretty conservative since they still offer the factory warranty with them. So there is an option for a small bump in performance. But expensive for the small performance benefit.
You should tell us. And how does this work now, can you just not buy tunes for diesel trucks anywhere legally? Or are the mainstream tuners still doing them but in an "EPA-friendly" way?Yup.
You should hear what the guys doing this 'under ground' are making PER Day selling you a file through email...
It's absolutely insane.
You should tell us. And how does this work now, can you just not buy tunes for diesel trucks anywhere legally? Or are the mainstream tuners still doing them but in an "EPA-friendly" way?
I know nothing about diesel performance, but if they’re tunes that make trucks “roll coal” then fuck em.You should tell us. And how does this work now, can you just not buy tunes for diesel trucks anywhere legally? Or are the mainstream tuners still doing them but in an "EPA-friendly" way?
Definitely depends on the tuner. I had a solid Sinister tune on mine, and it was like a light haze under WOT. I could have requested a "smoke tune," but more smoke = less efficient, so you're missing out on power by doing so.I know nothing about diesel performance, but if they’re tunes that make trucks “roll coal” then fuck em.
I have mentioned this before, I know companies that are based overseas. They sell the software and tunes via the Google store (for now). They let customers use Android-based devices to flash their vehicles. Once Google store cuts them off due to the EPA, they will go straight to email to continue doing the same thing.Yup.
You should hear what the guys doing this 'under ground' are making PER Day selling you a file through email...
It's absolutely insane.
I don't know if I'd consider Geouge low-hanging fruit. They allocated a helluva lot of resources to nailing his ass once he tried to be cheeky with the Spartan->Patriot shell game (and this is already after a "successful" lawsuit). Geouge was Spartan and Geouge was Patriot, without him neither would have been anything. The only thing he didn't have in his own arsenal was the hardware to deliver tunes. This investigation/pursuit took years and lots of armed jackboot business raids (these turds all showed up armed and with vests on too... but at least no dogs were shot that I know of). If we were to see the actual taxpayer bill for it all, I'm sure it'd be an astronomical number. E-Motion would still be around if not for active involvement in that transition, but it probably wasn't a very good idea to help EPA's Public Enemy #1 give them the finger at that point in time.Another of the low-hanging fruit was harvested officially.
'Polluting the air we breathe': Mechanic sentenced for selling thousands of devices that allowed trucks to bypass emissions controls
Matthew Geouge raked in $10 million for selling the devices which made trucks produce hundreds of times more pollution, prosecutors said.www.marketwatch.com
I just checked out the article. Guy was clearly a dumbass, didn't file taxes some years, was warned all the way back to 2015.Another of the low-hanging fruit was harvested officially.
'Polluting the air we breathe': Mechanic sentenced for selling thousands of devices that allowed trucks to bypass emissions controls
Matthew Geouge raked in $10 million for selling the devices which made trucks produce hundreds of times more pollution, prosecutors said.www.marketwatch.com
In addition to the prison term, Geouge was also ordered to pay $1.3 million in fines to the EPA, and $1.2 million in back taxes and penalties.
I'm fairly sure that they removed the ability to tamper with any emissions components but I haven't messed with anything but my own pile to know for sureWell, we can only hack our stuff if software gives us that ability.
What is HPT doing on this stuff, anyone know?