yo ford truck brah's. 2016 5.0 F150... which supercharger kit?
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killing the procharger?
you make it sound like procharger vs roots here is the difference between an ebay electric supercharger and a 4.2L whipple
Yes, do to the design of the two blowers the Whipple will make much more torque down low at the same peak boost levels. Because it makes a lot more boost down low. Did you see the power delivery of the two on the graphs you posted?
I see you didn't answer my question either. So I take it you don't know the peak boost numbers for those graphs or you don't want to say as it doesn't help push your Procharger agenda.
Comparing the graphs for specific numbers is silly when you don't know what either of those graphs represent. You don't know the fuel they were on, the peak boost numbers, timing at peak torque, timing at peak HP, if the graphs are STD or SAE, so on and so forth. The only thing those graphs are good for is the fact they show typical TQ & HP of each style blower.
We get it, you want him to buy a Procharger and that is what you are pushing. That is fine and dandy. But don't laugh at the fact that a whipple will make way more torque down low when compared to a Procharger. Because no one in their right mind will discount what torque the Whipple will make over a Centrifugal blower.
I have no hate for Centrifugal blowers. In many applications, they are the way to go. A DD truck isn't one of those applications that I would say they are ideal.
Also, I have known many street cars and race cars that had failed Prochargers. Most of those people said they would rather deal with Comcast than deal with Procharger. ProCharger owns has the large blower game. No doubt. Doesn't change the fact, that besides a bearing and seal rebuild, they will tell you to buy a new headunit. Standard procedure for them. All those people I know that had Prochargers, besides a couple of racers sponsored by them, now have turbo cars. Was an easy decision for them to cut ties and run. I guess you guy can just hope that he sells the truck before the thing fails.
Well you know I don't clean mine at all. That is why the Capri was all blacked out. lol
A black finish Whipple still looks pretty sweet too.
@Kay Jay
What rear end gear and tires on this truck? Because if he has the 275/60/18 tires and 3.55 gear he is looking at like 130 mph in 3rd gear. If he has the 275/55/20 he is looking at 132 mph at the top of 3rd gear. Even with the 3.73 gears he is looing at 126 mph at the top of 3rd. Rev it to 7800 or so and it gets even higher.
So is he really going to be that high in the rpm that often? Maybe 1st and 2nd gear? I doubt he will be doing 125+ mph too often to make use of the peak hp of the Procharger. Heck, even in 1st gear he would have to be doing 35mph before that fat part of the hp curve comes in.
What rear end gear and tires on this truck? Because if he has the 275/60/18 tires and 3.55 gear he is looking at like 130 mph in 3rd gear. If he has the 275/55/20 he is looking at 132 mph at the top of 3rd gear. Even with the 3.73 gears he is looing at 126 mph at the top of 3rd. Rev it to 7800 or so and it gets even higher.
So is he really going to be that high in the rpm that often? Maybe 1st and 2nd gear? I doubt he will be doing 125+ mph too often to make use of the peak hp of the Procharger. Heck, even in 1st gear he would have to be doing 35mph before that fat part of the hp curve comes in.
#prattbatmanlogo
glad i got you hot and bothered by this.
i just didn't take the time to reply to every one of your silly questions, because frankly I didn't care to
the procharger was at 8.5 psi, 91 octane, the whipple was on 91 octane as well, at i dont know yet how much boost, but im looking to satisfy you
we get it, you nutswing over what you believe, and if someone disagrees with you, they are the worst.
and again, i personally have shipped prochargers back to procharger and it was seriously painless.
Guys sounds like a bit of a noob to me
Not sure if you caught it, but C&D just did a towing test of the EB F-150 vs. 5.0L F-150. That little Ecoboost beat the 5.0L in almost every performance stat while towing a load.
Guys sounds like a bit of a noob to me
Not sure if you caught it, but C&D just did a towing test of the EB F-150 vs. 5.0L F-150. That little Ecoboost beat the 5.0L in almost every performance stat while towing a load.
not sure if you caught it, but he kept his 6.7 diesel for towing
That's to be expected. The game has changed when you add a blower to the 5.0
KayJay, give us a boat to tow around and we can compare my tuned EB to his ProCharged 5.0 for all the TCG'ers
not sure if you caught it, but he kept his 6.7 diesel for towing
Nope, just saw on the first page that you said he was towing with it.
I wouldn't trade off the torque. That is one heavy pig to get moving. The torque on demand, at any speed, will be nice to get the thing accelerating. Pulley change and it will make the same hp with way more average torque. Sure, you can pulley up the Procharger as well. But torque just isn't going to be there. That is why companies came up with wastegates to try and help centrifugal blowers to make more torque down low. Must be a demand for more torque with these centrifugal blowers. Otherwise, why would they bother?
Like I said, I am sure he will be plenty happy with the Procharger's power.
390rwhp/470rwtq Turbo'd VS 536rwhp/491rwtq Centri'd
big ol' HP gap, very slight tq gap. I'm enticed by this testing.
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