Ford Bronco is back: It's official

[Yaj Yak]

yes, the bronco which will not compete with wrangler, and the baby bronco that's coming too. ford already has an adge and escape

im really unsure in what world an edge and escape compete with anything with solid axles but alright.

 

[BeerOrGasoline]

Bronco is gonna be a direct Wrangler fighter, with all the wrangler markup & off-roadability goodness


inb4$50kBroncoFX4

 

[DEEZUZ]

future exwife material?

Fixt

 

[Yaj Yak]

Bronco is gonna be a direct Wrangler fighter, with all the wrangler markup & off-roadability goodness


inb4$50kBroncoFX4

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Fixt

Pump a baby and bounce?

 

[DEEZUZ]

Yes..cause you know ain't nobody want that shit once she's had baby. So once a month you can assure yourself a visit

 

[dun4791]

im really unsure in what world an edge and escape compete with anything with solid axles but alright.

redundant in size to the 99% soccer mom non enthusiast market. are they trying to put a dent in wrangler sales, or are they going to cannibalize sales from their existing lineup?

 

[Yaj Yak]

redundant in size to the 99% soccer mom non enthusiast market. are they trying to put a dent in wrangler sales, or are they going to cannibalize sales from their existing lineup?

i think that's obvious no?

they have said... solid axles... true offroad... etc....

they didn't disappoint with the raptor, im unsure why you are so hellbent in thinking they will with this.

 

[Yaj Yak]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a32394/2020-ford-bronco-solid-axles/

At the 2017 North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Ford dropped the news we've all been anticipating for seemingly forever: The Bronco returns in 2020. Speaking with R&T at the show, Ford Executive Vice President Joe Hinrichs vowed that the new Bronco will be a bona-fide off-roader, hinting that the upcoming SUV could be the first true competitor to the wildly successful Jeep Wrangler in many years.

 

[Yaj Yak]

As Larry Vellequette reports at Automotive News, axle manufacturer Dana revealed in an investor presentation this month that it's been chosen as the driveline supplier for both the 2019 Ford Ranger and the 2020 Bronco. In the presentation, Dana indicated that both vehicles will have "front and rear axles featuring our latest AdvanTEK gear technology," Vellequette writes.

Dana. Hmmm. Where have I seen those axles before? Ah yes:

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[greasy]

what is a make or break to you?









imo, a solid powerplant, ~5-6k worth of towing, straight axles, and a shiftable transfer case to allow for rwd vs 4x4 and not always awd and they're in the ball park of awesome.

I want all of that, but the design has to be very close the visual cues of the old Bronco and not just carry the name badge. I also want the interior to be spacious, not cramped.

I’m not confident in those things being in place.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I personally think they will. i mean plenty of families operate out of 4 door jeep jk's and JL's plenty well.


i think people have some sort of notion that the previous (larger of the two) bronco was some ginormous vehicle... when in reality... a new jeep wrangler 4 door is 8-9 inches longer overall than it was... and within 4-5 inches as wide.

 

[Yaj Yak]

my wish for all of this is that it'd make GM go "hey let's build a body on frame mid size off road capable suv"

blazer zr2 style based off the colorado


but.

gm's ballless and won't.

 

[dun4791]

i think that's obvious no?

they have said... solid axles... true offroad... etc....

they didn't disappoint with the raptor, im unsure why you are so hellbent in thinking they will with this.

wrangler sells because of the existing customer base, the enthusiast who defys logic and doesn't care about ride, comfort, handling, power, mileage, towing, value......

while the masses want the Honda crv or close equivalent. I don't think Ford is going to steal wrangler people and the suv lineup they have already doesn't leave room for much more than making what they have already better and leaving the wrangler market alone. Make an escape that actually competes with a crv, etc. So my question is who is going to buy this, and what are they not going to buy because of it?
I guess we'll see.

 

[Yaj Yak]

id buy a bronco before a jeep.... :iorun:

 

[Yaj Yak]

and value? come on man, wranglers have one of the best resale values there is i think

 

[dun4791]

id buy a bronco before a jeep.... :iorun:

ok, but I'm guessing you won't buy either

 

[Yaj Yak]

not sure what that matters.

 

[dun4791]

and value? come on man, wranglers have one of the best resale values there is i think

I do agree about the resale, not my value point, they are expensive for what they are. Hell, I own one.

 

[Yaj Yak]

and you wouldn't consider a bronco when it's out if it's worthy competitor?

 

[dun4791]

not sure what that matters.

Because you are another enthusiast who thinks the idea is cool, but isn't going to buy..... the family crv would be the far better choice.

 

[Yaj Yak]

i dont buy new vehicles for myself so it really doesn't matter at all in that case

 

[dun4791]

and you wouldn't consider a bronco when it's out if it's worthy competitor?

I would consider a bronco, but I'm also a non brand loyal customer and an enthusiast for whom it would be a 7th or 8th vehicle for.

 

[Yaj Yak]

i think the only reason id go wrangler over bronco is becasue i doubt the new bronco will have a manual option...

 

[dun4791]

i dont buy new vehicles for myself so it really doesn't matter at all in that case

ok, cool.... so ask yourself. who is the target market? wrangler people, they are for the most part wrangler people. crv people? They are for your most part low entry height, good value, good ride etc people, existing ford suv, explorer pe0ple? no 3rd row.....

I truly hope it's a cool vehicle, i just wonder who's going to buy