TUNING OPINIONS: recent scan of teh GTP

[Eagle]

Thanks for taking a look. I looked at the 04 Comp timing table too, I think it only goes up to 13* in that same area...

 

[02BlueGT]

Your table almost looks inverted, the higher numbers should be in the upper left(cruse and low load timing) not lower left and the 11* seems right for some stock tables, some of the bin's had lower timing for some reason.. I'll see if I can upload mine, but upping the cruse timing will def help with the gas mileage

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Nobody has a base map for you to run? My dhp tune sucked balls when I first was modding my car.

 

[DanJ]

I reaaaallly need to re tune my car. With the switch to winter blend and freezing temperatures my gas mileage sucks.

 

[02BlueGT]

I reaaaallly need to re tune my car. With the switch to winter blend and freezing temperatures my gas mileage sucks.

I'm getting 20-22 on winter blend....48* cruz timing FTW

 

[Eagle]

I get 20ish also when I drive it nicely.

But I need to get my o2s up to something reasonable @ WOT.... 870 isnt cutting it, even after a 10% increase across the boards to the MAF table.

Do I keep adjusting the MAF, or once the LTFTs are around -1 or -2, should I start adjusting it via the PE values?

 

[10sec]

From the sound of it the car is lean, therefore not adding proper timing, therefore running crapping timing, 11* is too low, valve burning low, that's not good eagle beagle. I'm booting up the hpt comp right now, i'll take a look in about 3min and 12second from the time this message is posted.

 

[Eagle]

sweet. lemme post a new bin and scan file(s).

 

[10sec]

I'm assuming the bin is stock, no need to post, i know what it looks like lol. What i can do since you're an hpt user, is make some WOT changes 10sec style and give the car a little more fuel, on top of that get rid of all the tables that decide what timing your car runs. That's where the junk is. My laptop is failing right now, and the gf's laptop isn't equipped with hpt, well not yet at least...

 

[Eagle]

http://www.builtnotboughtracing.com/TCG/GTP/

Check out the MAF +10%.hpt and the MAF 10%.hpl files.

 

[Eagle]

bin shouldn't be stock...

get that gf laptop fired up with some HPT

 

[02BlueGT]

I'm assuming the bin is stock, no need to post, i know what it looks like lol. What i can do since you're an hpt user, is make some WOT changes 10sec style and give the car a little more fuel, on top of that get rid of all the tables that decide what timing your car runs. That's where the junk is. My laptop is failing right now, and the gf's laptop isn't equipped with hpt, well not yet at least...

^^ Whoops to the 10* i'm running to avoid KR....


PE add vs rpm, I have hpt 2.22, please post a pic this table in your current tune

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

So with gp it's better to run more timing not boost? What's ideal psi on a gen 3? 12-13psi?

 

[Eagle]

RPM vs RPM vs time?

That table is confusing a bit to me, as v8s don't have the same table.

 

[Eagle]

So with gp it's better to run more timing not boost? What's ideal psi on a gen 3? 12-13psi?

dunno about ideal, but I see anywhere from like 12-15lbs on mine with the 3.4 pulley.

 

[02BlueGT]

RPM vs RPM vs time?

That table is confusing a bit to me, as v8s don't have the same table.

I don't have the HPT in front of me, but is should be Engine>Fuel Control>PE

And is should Be base VS RPM

dunno about ideal, but I see anywhere from like 12-15lbs on mine with the 3.4 pulley.

12-15 on a 3.4 sounds like some boost stacking to me

 

[Eagle]

interesting... more often than not its around 12-13 MAYBE 14, but it does get to the 15 on occasion.

To fix boost stacking, you need more exhaust?

 

[Eagle]

oh, and on the PE thing, I know where to find it. But my table is "Add vs RPM vs Time"

Its not a single row, rather it is a full table.

 

[02BlueGT]

oh, and on the PE thing, I know where to find it. But my table is "Add vs RPM vs Time"

Its not a single row, rather it is a full table.

Hold on while I grab my Laptop

 

[02BlueGT]

sorry, it is the Base AFR vs ECT I'm looking for

 

[10sec]

Don't touch the pe tables!!!

 

[Eagle]

Right, that is a single row, listing commanded AFR vs ECT.

Is it really that easy? Should I just richen that up about 10%, as my WOT values are off by 10%....

MAF values seem to be pretty close, LTFTs are like -1 -2...

 

[Eagle]

Don't touch the pe tables!!!

Roger. I'm awaiting further instruction.

 

[10sec]

Looking at your tune/scan i see the typical gtp guy running a 3.4 pulley on a completely stock car... WTF eagle? more boost and low timing on a turbo car = win, less boost and more timing on an m90 car = win. Other way around (i.e. eagles junk) = fail.

 

[02BlueGT]

Don't touch the pe tables!!!

this is why you get the squinty eye in my sig...... seriously though, Listen to 10sec over myself, as I still consider my self a newb, and I'm thinking of starting over with my tune in the spring