Buying a car from a Wisconsin dealership

[RICH17]

Cook County's use tax is entirely bogus - DailyHerald.com

Cook County Government, Illinois | CookCountyil.gov » Non-Retailer Use Tax


Just googling some shit

 

[TCG Member 5219]

Cook County's use tax is entirely bogus - DailyHerald.com

Cook County Government, Illinois | CookCountyil.gov » Non-Retailer Use Tax


Just googling some shit

 

[RICH17]

That holds true if you buy within cook and live in cook. You can buy outside of cook for a small tax break, but outside of that it doesnt matter. And wont matter for BRU at this point. But I see what you are saying. All I have been saying is that the days of you having to handle your own taxes and registration are over unless you buy from some dirt water used car lot in another state half way across the country. Any franchise dealer should be able to handle all of this, and at the very least collect the taxes and reg fees for you so you can roll them into a loan, and just leave the mailing of forms to you. But you would have your bill of sale with all the money paid on it.

I just bought my Cruze from a dealer. I bet I'll get a bill in the mail from Crook county

 

[BrianG]

Nope he'll get one. I got one for my Grand Am after titling it at a currency exchange and [MENTION=653]BrianG[/MENTION] got one after buying out in dekalb.

From my research, I'll have to pay the full Cook County tax. It sucks. I just would prefer to deal with it only once at the dealership and not at the DMV. I guess that's a question for the dealership.

The bill we ended up getting was not a sales tax bill, it was Cook County's bullshit "Use Tax" bill. When you buy a car from a private party in a different county, then register it in Cook, Cook hits you directly with this shit.

 

[RICH17]

The bill we ended up getting was not a sales tax bill, it was Cook County's bullshit "Use Tax" bill. When you buy a car from a private party in a different county, then register it in Cook, Cook hits you directly with this shit.

Your truck wasn't private party tho

 

[Bruce Jibboo]

next up is taxing the polluted ass corruption smelling air cook county has floating around

 

[TCG Member 5219]

The bill we ended up getting was not a sales tax bill, it was Cook County's bullshit "Use Tax" bill. When you buy a car from a private party in a different county, then register it in Cook, Cook hits you directly with this shit.

THIS

 

[BrianG]

Your truck wasn't private party tho

Oh yeah, duh. But the dealership didn't collect any Cook County taxes, so Cook County collected Cook County taxes.

 

[Bru]

Did you get fined for not filing the form within 30 days?

 

[RICH17]

THIS

Oh yeah, duh. But the dealership didn't collect any Cook County taxes, so Cook County collected Cook County taxes.

This

 

[BrianG]

Now, I'm not entirely sure why I was billed that Use Tax... I didn't get fined for anything. I just got a Cook County tax bill in the mail, looked it up to verify that it was legit, cut a check to the Secretary of State IIRC.

 

[Bru]

The plot thickens

 

[TCG Member 5219]

This

So you are trying to tell me that an IL dealer did not collect your county tax? Yeah no. That would not be legal. IL dealers are obligated to collect your home county taxes when you buy out of county. So I'd need to see the buyers order on that one my friend.

 

[BrianG]

This looks like what I paid...
http://www.cookcountyil.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2707-IUT-form1.pdf

 

[TCG Member 5219]

This looks like what I paid...
http://www.cookcountyil.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2707-IUT-form1.pdf

Just like you said, thats the use tax bill not sales tax. If you bought in Dekalb and lived in dekalb it would have been 6.5%. If you did the same but live in cook then it was like Bruce said 7.XX% plus you catch that use tax. But that should be it.

 

[BrianG]

Just like you said, that the use tax bill not sales tax. If you bought in Dekalb and lived in dekalb it would have been 6.5%. If you did the same but live in cook then it was like Bruce said 7.XX% plus you catch that use tax. But that should be it.

Correct. Pretty sure that's how it went down.

 

[RICH17]

So you are trying to tell me than an IL dealer did not collect your county tax? Yeah no. That would not be legal. IL dealers are obligated to collect your home county taxes when you buy out of county. So I'd need to see the buyers order on that one my friend.

No this is an extra tax. See below

This looks like what I paid...
http://www.cookcountyil.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2707-IUT-form1.pdf

This is exactly what I got for the Grand Am. I think you had to pay 250 bucks IIRC?

Mine would've been 5 bucks.

My Cruze will be 122 dollars

 

[RICH17]

Just like you said, thats the use tax bill not sales tax. If you bought in Dekalb and lived in dekalb it would have been 6.5%. If you did the same but live in cook then it was like Bruce said 7.XX% plus you catch that use tax. But that should be it.

Yea I don't believe I said its the sales tax. it's an extra crook county bullshit tax because they're idiots and cant manage their money

 

[TCG Member 5219]

No this is an extra tax. See below



This is exactly what I got for the Grand Am. I think you had to pay 250 bucks IIRC?

Mine would've been 5 bucks.

My Cruze will be 122 dollars

Yes. This is exactly what I have been saying. Maybe you and I have been saying the same thing all along...lol But I thought you meant he would get a sales tax bill in the mail. And I know he shouldnt if they calculate the Cook Co sales taxes correctly. But the use tax is a whole other ball game, and that I think we agree on....shit..lol

 

[RICH17]

Now I think we're on the same page

 

[Chester Copperpot]

When I bought my Fagstang in Plainfield, they asked what county I was in which was Lake at the time. The tacked on Lake county's tax. When I bought my quad in Wisconsin, they didn't charge me any tax and actually gave me the WI title for the quad. IL "will" "collect" their tax when I "get" an IL title.

So, either you pay the tax up there and the difference when you register it in IL or you pay nothing up there and the full amount on registration. At least that's how I see it.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

When I bought my Fagstang in Plainfield, they asked what county I was in which was Lake at the time. The tacked on Lake county's tax. When I bought my quad in Wisconsin, they didn't charge me any tax and actually gave me the WI title for the quad. IL "will" "collect" their tax when I "get" an IL title.

So, either you pay the tax up there and the difference when you register it in IL or you pay nothing up there and the full amount on registration. At least that's how I see it.

Power sports stuff is different if you dont need to register for plates. I think that was the difference.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Yes and no. Quads no need to register but you still get a title. Snowmobiles yes you need to register. All I was getting out of that was when/where you pay the tax.

 

[RICH17]

So after talking with the people at my work it looks like we take care of the "use tax" for our customers as a courtesy to our customers. It is an option for dealers to do I guess.

My guess is why car dealers don't do it is because people haggle price out the door more than big trucks. My Cruze was listed at 11,900 online but haggled at 12k out the door cash. I finally got it for 12250. But now I am going to get that "use tax" bill in the mail for 122. Great....

 

[Bruce Jibboo]

taxation with corruption representation

time to start throwing a couple smart cars in LAKE MI to protest