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Old 01-03-2019, 11:06 AM   #1
 
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Wow... Jordan Peterson articulates exact physical and mental changes I've been experiencing with restricted foods (paleo or keto based) the last 8 weeks. Only thing hes a lil dumb about is not supplementing vitamins and minerals.

great information here folks.

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What happens if you eat literally the opposite?
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fat, sick, and nearly dead... the standard american diet (SAD).
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For once in my life, I got the best results, instead of every side effect known to man!!!
I'm on the Atkins diet, I stuff myself every meal and do very very little exercise.

I lost 62 lbs, last summer and 8 weeks of that I was in a sling.
I count nothing, I measure nothing, and as posted, I have never been so full in my life.
I eat more meat than anything else, I eat cheese & celery also, but mostly meat.

I had zero side effects, I had zero lack of energy issues, I had zero stomach issues.
The no carbs, no sugar diet is frigging awesome.

My buddy's wife started ~the same time and she gained weight, but of course she cheated daily and then blamed the diet!!!


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Been following a ketogenic diet since labor day. Restricted to <20g carbs a day. Its changed my life. I have to say the mental clarity is the best benefit behind weight loss. The SAD is arranged to make you fat and be addicted to sugar.
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Seriously, meat FTW
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Tread lightly brah... percentage wise more thin people are sick on the inside than obese. Obesity doesn't directly correlate to metabolic disease. It's not the fat in general but the systemic inflammation, bloating, and visceral fat causing the disease.

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But here’s the twist: its victims may have no idea just what bad shape they’re in. That’s because they are TOFIs – “Thin Outside, Fat Inside” – whose bodies show little outward sign that they are packed with a particularly nasty form of fat.

We mostly think of fat as a single inert type of stuff, which while unsightly, does provide us with an energy store plus a bit of cushioning and insulation.
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fat, sick, and nearly dead... the standard american diet (SAD).

I think he meant opposite as in no meat all veggies LOL. Mr ilikebikes a beast. He rides up and down mountains bro. Probably has some of the best cardio fitness on here.
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There’s tons of studies both ways, personally I like meat and carbs, limiting processed foods is more important than what macro you choose to eat most of
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Lunch today, shredded beef, chicken breast, broccoli from Marianos.
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My point, mostly meat.
I am trying to limit carbs




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Maybe I have more of an addictive personality but of the stimulants and alcohol Iíve consumed Iíve never physically craved anything. There is nothing like trying to kick sugar, grains, carbs from the diet. Itís 3-4 days of withdrawal every time. After that 3-4 days though life is good and stable and zero cravings.
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I've never done a true kick sugar plan. Id like to, just hard.
I love beer, not a lot, 4-5 / day
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ya to be fair the first 4-6 weeks I continued to drink beer.. just restricting this to food did more than enough to show me whats possible, eventually I started feeling so good that I basically forgot to drink beer if that makes sense? Like today I woke up and was working by 130am and have been feeling amazing all day even with a bit of work stress etc.
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eat all the fatty beef, pork or chicken + green veggies, cheese, butter and some nuts and olives. Eliminate grains, rice, beans and fruit. Drink water, black coffee or unsweetened tea only. Multivitamin. Repeat daily.

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Ok since I am a cliffs guy, I'll help the other cliffs guys...

7:16 in is where he describes all the symptom relief. Here is link to 7:16

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eat all the fatty beef, pork or chicken + green veggies, cheese, butter and some nuts and olives. Eliminate grains, rice, beans and fruit. Drink water, black coffee or unsweetened tea only. Multivitamin. Repeat daily.

I'm supplementing way more than a multivitamin... I'll be backing all that out slowly and expect nothing to change based on the fact the body does synthesize all vitamins except C, and I semi-agree you don't need C if your dialed in 100% diet, at a healthy weight, and have a rock solid gut micro biome.

Through this last year I wasn't sure if it was the diet modification or it was supplementing things I was deficient in to yield these crazy results.
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I'm supplementing way more than a multivitamin... I'll be backing all that out slowly and expect nothing to change based on the fact the body does synthesize all vitamins except C, and I semi-agree you don't need C if your dialed in 100% diet, at a healthy weight, and have a rock solid gut micro biome.

Through this last year I wasn't sure if it was the diet modification or it was supplementing things I was deficient in to yield these crazy results.
I do take a 400mg magnesium supplement, but not sure its really necessary or even being asborbed to its fullest. My last blood work came back great, except slightly low vitamin D. Many of my family and friends eating a SAD told me I am going to die by 40 on this "diet"
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By crazy results I mean resolving physical and mental ailments but no significant weight loss, the holidays fucked me up so literally back at kicking the fucking carb habit. I'll need to be committed to see dramatic weight loss.

One thing about the waist is I can now feel the physical fat on top of my organs vs the last couple decades I'm pretty sure its been inflammation and bloat.

Anyone else ever able to differentiate that with their own midsections?
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I do take a 400mg magnesium supplement, but not sure its really necessary or even being asborbed to its fullest. My last blood work came back great, except slightly low vitamin D. Many of my family and friends eating a SAD told me I am going to die by 40 on this "diet"
It's because they are fucking addicted.. I've played enough going back and forth over the last 18 months to prove it to myself.

Just ask them to do you a favor and give up carbs for 72 hours to prove to themselves they are full blown addicts. You'll have a portion who won't even entertain the fucking idea and you'll have the other portion giving in after 1/2 a day to a day.

Sounds like cigs right?
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By crazy results I mean resolving physical and mental ailments but no significant weight loss, the holidays fucked me up so literally back at kicking the fucking carb habit. I'll need to be committed to see dramatic weight loss.

One thing about the waist is I can now feel the physical fat on top of my organs vs the last couple decades I'm pretty sure its been inflammation and bloat.

Anyone else ever able to differentiate that with their own midsections?
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