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Old 09-25-2009, 10:25 AM   #1
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first off, i mean no harm or disrespect to your modified shelbys. i have been off this forum for about 4 years now, i had kids and they are now in pre-school and i finally have time to have fun with my car again. a buddy of mine told me about a blue convertible at golf mill ford for 43K. i went there and since the blue one was in the showroom i got to testdrive a red hardtop. here is the big shocker, it just didnt feel much faster than my 99 vert. mine is modded and i ran a 12.9 in it. with the 200 extra horse i thought i would have a sh!teating grin on my face after i got out but i was just really let down. at first i figured it was just the quiter exhaust but i brought it up to redline a few times and ehh. what does this thing run stock in the 1/4? 13's. for the money i would have to spend to get one and THEN have to mod it...in my case it just doesnt make sense. like i said i have been out of the loop for a few years, are these as easy to mod as the 03's and do you get the same results? i know this car shines on the twistys but i mostly ran the 1/4 and had a lil fun on the street cutting corners. i think it is time to build up the engine and get a SC on mine. did any of you guys feel the same way after you drove it for the first time?
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First how many miles where on it? Was it making any boost yet?They feel slower stock of the box then they are. They will run mid/low 12's with a good driver stock.
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First how many miles where on it? Was it making any boost yet?They feel slower stock of the box then they are. They will run mid/low 12's with a good driver stock.
it was a new one, i didnt look at the miles on it, i kept seeing 47 miles till out of fuel displayed somewhere, my attention was more on the road and the rpms and speedo. i didnt feel the boost, i was waiting for it but nothing. i just spoke to someone at sutton about SCing my car and told him about the drive and he said they are tuned down from the factory so i guess that in conjunction with no break in could make it feel the way it did. it is still surprising though.
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Thats what I was thinking, if there was not enough miles on it you would not be able to get any boost out of it.
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It won't build more than 3lbs of boost till it has 5 miles or 50 starts.....and that is after the jumper wire is removed during the pre-delivery check. If I was the dealer I would leave the jumper in place for test drives
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I ran a [email protected] with mine bone stock on stock tires. Its all in the driver, and I agree that you were still in the factory detune mode.
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I thought full boost doesnt kick in till after 500 miles, till the engine is broken in? I might be wrong.
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like i said i have been out of the loop for a few years, are these as easy to mod as the 03's and do you get the same results?
Yes they are as easy to mod as 03-04 Cobras and when modded equally, the GT500 will always be quicker/faster.
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Yes they are as easy to mod as 03-04 Cobras and when modded equally, the GT500 will always be quicker/faster.
full boost does not come on till at least 150 miles.
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full boost does not come on till at least 150 miles.
I'm aware of the GT500 boost limiting, just answering another question he posed.
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I'm aware of the GT500 boost limiting, just answering another question he posed.
John probably quoted the wrong person... what a dummy
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2500 will get you 600 at the wheels.
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I'm aware of the GT500 boost limiting, just answering another question he posed.

I quoted wrong person my bad. just handing out helpful info.

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i know carmax has a few of these, i will go test one that should be broken in.
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I have some on the lot with full boost.
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i know carmax has a few of these, i will go test one that should be broken in.

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i thought you were talking about my 99...lol i wish i could get it up there for that cheap.
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On my first drive my car was NOT in boost, but luckily for me, mine was set for the quickest of 2 posibilities....1. is that once the car moves for 5 consecutive miles it will go into FULL boost, 2. 50 starts. I got lucky. When leaving the dealer I was following a Roush charged 06 with 375RWHP and he ran off on me pretty bad 2 miles from the dealer in a scoot down north ave, then way out by Thorndale and Meechum I went after him again and almost HIT HIM because I was really enjoying the pull and got REAL close before applying my NEW GIANT BRAKES which got me right off his tail in time, so I knew she was ALIVE. We then ran up Meechum and I crushed the 06 in a blaze of spinning tires out of 1st into second and let up for fear of being TOO HARD TOO SOON, but none the less I knew it came to life.

The 2010 Shelby GT 500......( I have one of those you know ) is a completely different animal than the 03's. My Stage 5 ported 2.76 w/4.10's walks my 2010 from 70 well into 4th, only be eat'n up shortly there after, and I have a pulley tune already, however, my son was driving the 03 and the weight difference is upwards of 375lbs, so you see why my 03 runs off for a while. It would be an all out dog fight in a 1/4 mile run since he weighs only 135 in my 3750 03 to my 300 with a 3900lb car.

I've been told the 03-04 4.6 Cobra motor IS actually a STRONGER motor, but I don't buy it, and as far as modifying it, I think a 2.9 Whipple, a 1 piece drive shaft, some upper and lower control arms and it's a high to mid 10 car all day with Drag Radials and of course the driver mod.

I ran a 12.297 @ 117 with DR's on my first try ever, that car was flawless in it's effort, shifted like I always dreamed of, and was begging for 48-5500RPM launch, but that WILL pop the drive shaft right out of it, I have been warned so I took it out at 3800 and didn't even spin the wheels.

My point IS, you drove a car in SAFE MODE, and although the pull is DIFFERENT, trust me, this is a VERY fast car at 540HP, and I have 630 now from a simple pulley and tune. I plan to get the Whipple and go for 600-640RWHP and I have NO FEAR of enjoying 150,000 miles of trouble free engine wear.

THAT'S what Ford sold me, and Chevy doesn't. A new blower, injectors, a tune and some minor drive line enhancements and I hear they plant and RUN, I can't wait.
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did you drive a new '09 or new '10? i guess ive got a couple of points to make here. i have an '03 now, damn close to bone stock. that i love more than anything. my buddy that lives in az. had a new '09 gt500. when i went to visit him i got the chance to drive it. it was fully broken in, bone stock. i gotta say, i wasnt off the wall about it. power wise i was expectin to be blown away. didnt get into too much handling. as far as the looks go, 05-09 isnt for me at all. specially after seein the '10.

now dennis's '10 gt500? id trade in a heart beat, the new ones look so god damn money. not to mention the interior is a 1000% upgrade. havent driven one, yet. but i bet id be more than pleased in one.
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it was a new one, i didnt look at the miles on it, i kept seeing 47 miles till out of fuel displayed somewhere, my attention was more on the road and the rpms and speedo. i didnt feel the boost, i was waiting for it but nothing. i just spoke to someone at sutton about SCing my car and told him about the drive and he said they are tuned down from the factory so i guess that in conjunction with no break in could make it feel the way it did. it is still surprising though.
Ford has a release program in these cars you wont see boost until 100-150 miles on the clock. This is what you probably experienced. Just their way of kind of breaking in the motor and preventing it from getting damaged.
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I guess they're finally giving them away at some of the larger dealerships.

I love how some of the small dealers have the SAME one there for years and they're not dropping the price. Ridiculous.
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2.6 pulley, aux idler, stock belt, JLT cai, SCT/Diablosport, and a tune will net 530-550rwhp... these cars are simply AWESOME!
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