#QOTD-Name a car everyone thinks is fast, but it isn't

[torquelover]

1990's. Grand Am
2000's. G6

 

[boostedguy05]

Frs

 

[Yaj Yak]

holy shit. another thread that stayed on topic.





3v's.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Any Corvette from 72 to early 90s??

[MENTION=85]EmersonHart13[/MENTION]

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Audi A4's, Subaru wrx, any manual car driven by someone who can't drive but thinks they can drive.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Muscle cars

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

3v mustangs were the WORST
v8 R8's

also IMO most BMW's are underpowered for what they cost. This is made worse because all BMW owners think their car is fast. The turbo i6 only makes 300hp, which is only 15-25hp more than it's n/a 6 cylinder competition (acura, lexus, etc). What's worse, the 4 cylinder is 240hp and it's offered in the giant 528i with a base price of $51k.

Hell my cheap '14 Taurus is 288hp

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

2011-13 (or whatever years they were available) ZL1's are also unacceptably slow for having 580hp.

...but I'd still buy one if the price was right

 

[cap42]

3v mustangs were the WORST

Think you mean 2v mustangs

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Think you mean 2v mustangs

this too

I was only thinking about cars produced in the past decade. lol

 

[EmersonHart13]

Almost all the stock versions of the cars in the first F&F movie....

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

If we're thinking back to mustang history, most of them slower than the competition and would have a hard time beating a regular v6 sedan found on the roads today

The 5.0 couldn't beat the LT1
The 4.6 was a joke for its first 7 years of production (until the 03 cobra came out)
the 3v was a joke
the coyote engines are impressive, but once again they have been bested by the new Camaro

 

[Yaj Yak]

3v mustangs were the WORST
v8 R8's

also IMO most BMW's are underpowered for what they cost. This is made worse because all BMW owners think their car is fast. The turbo i6 only makes 300hp, which is only 15-25hp more than it's n/a 6 cylinder competition (acura, lexus, etc). What's worse, the 4 cylinder is 240hp and it's offered in the giant 528i with a base price of $51k.

Hell my cheap '14 Taurus is 288hp

"underpowered" but you can't compare peak numbers here.

cuz that turbo i6 bmw will walk your 288hp taurus.

new bmw 340i's run 12.7's

https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/2016/long-term-road-test/2016-bmw-340i-performance-tested.html

1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 12.7 @ 108.3 (w/TC on: 13.2 @ 107.3)

i mean, fuck, the new 330i's with 248 whole horsepower run 14.3's

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

"underpowered" but you can't compare peak numbers here.

cuz that turbo i6 bmw will walk your 288hp taurus.

new bmw 340i's run 12.7's

https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/2016/long-term-road-test/2016-bmw-340i-performance-tested.html

i mean, fuck, the new 330i's with 248 whole horsepower run 14.3's

Good point, and I'd expect a $50k+ turbo BMW to walk a heavy and cheap n/a Taurus. I did not realize the 330i went low 14's with under 250hp

 

[Yaj Yak]

3v mustangs were the WORST
v8 R8's

also IMO most BMW's are underpowered for what they cost. This is made worse because all BMW owners think their car is fast. The turbo i6 only makes 300hp, which is only 15-25hp more than it's n/a 6 cylinder competition (acura, lexus, etc). What's worse, the 4 cylinder is 240hp and it's offered in the giant 528i with a base price of $51k.

Hell my cheap '14 Taurus is 288hp

also, no more 528i, 530i is "lowest"

and with it's whole 248hp... runs low 14's also.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Good point, and I'd expect a $50k+ turbo BMW to walk a heavy and cheap n/a Taurus. I did not realize the 330i went low 14's with under 250hp

340i's running 12.7's bone stock is the shocker to me

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

OKOK KJ has shown me the light in regards to BMW, I retract my previous statement. To be honest I stopped paying attention to them when all the CPO low mile 335's became unattainable for under ~$35k. Not to mention the orange backlit gauges that haven't changed much in over a decade don't belong on a car in that price range IMO

 

[Yaj Yak]

quitchyerbitchin'!

 

[boostedguy05]

holy shit. another thread that stayed on topic.

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

quitchyerbitchin'!

I'm enjoying your new found BMW nut swinging

 

[SaturdaysGS]

First gen Dodge Avenger, two door Dodge Stratus Coupe

 

[Grabber]

Tesla's
Any pick-up truck that isn't a Raptor or special edition Roush/Saleen S/C
2V Mustangs
Pre-2011 V6 Mustangs
V6 Camaro's
Lamborghini Gallardo
Ferrari 360
Fox body Mustangs
Prius'
Camry's

 

[Yaj Yak]

Tesla's
Any pick-up truck that isn't a Raptor or special edition Roush/Saleen S/C
2V Mustangs
Pre-2011 V6 Mustangs
V6 Camaro's
Lamborghini Gallardo
Ferrari 360
Fox body Mustangs
Prius'
Camry's

wait what

you're all over the place here.

 

[jason05gt]

If we're thinking back to mustang history, most of them slower than the competition and would have a hard time beating a regular v6 sedan found on the roads today

The 5.0 couldn't beat the LT1
The 4.6 was a joke for its first 7 years of production (until the 03 cobra came out)
the 3v was a joke
the coyote engines are impressive, but once again they have been bested by the new Camaro

I'm not sure of Ford's strategy as they seem to be behind GM for the past 2 decades from the factory, but the aftermarket is the great equalizer. The aftermarket for the Mustang is much larger than GM's.

 

[Blownbyyou]

Dakota R/t's....
Neon R/t