Microsoft E3 Briefing today (Xbox Scorpio reveal) - Details

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

 

[Turk]

PLEASE. You could build a potato PC that can run most AAA games at 1080@60. A $100 GTX970 could do that with half the system ram and a spinning drive.

Furthermore the 1070s are aging now. What happens when you want to maintain the 1080p@60fps for say the next 5 years with every year's new AAA titles. Thats how long it will be before the next xbox comes out. Those devs will have to write their games with less and less detail because you will be frozen in 2016 gpu tech. Your argument about a closed system is not valid. Never has been, never will be. This is the last post I post about this. There is no point arguing with you on the internet.

I do look forward to seeing most of you in person though at meets and such. But this is just a waste of my time.

Dude, for being such a PC guy, you really have no clue. ARK is the most unoptimized game in the world and can't hold 60fps with even a 1070. Running 1080p at 60fps on xbox one x for ARK is very impressive. So no, a GTX 970 wouldn't even come close, and if you read ANYTHING in the last thread, most xbox one x games are running 4k at 60 fps. What happens when your "rig" ages in 4 years and you have to spend another 2k?

Look at this video, barely ever hits 60fps on awesome pc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlyw01qo8V4

 

[Turk]

4k doesn't matter when all the games run at 1080p...

Most are running at 4k... Where are you guys getting your info?

 

[Mook]

But can it run Spiderman 2 from the original Xbox?

 

[Grabber]

I would LOVE to see a PC under $500 that can run games like GTAV and BF4 on full graphics without break a sweat.

MB - $100-$125
Processor - $200-$300
Graphics Card - $300
RAM - $100

What about a case, cooling, PSU, etc.

If we compare used prices of computer parts to the cost of the new XB1X, it's not a rational comparison and the computer would still be more expensive when you factor everything in.

 

[Turk]

But can it run Spiderman 2 from the original Xbox?

Yes! Thanks to the new backwards compatibility.

Also, I forgot to mention. Microsoft plans on releasing Xbox's like iPhones. The idea of a new generation xbox every 5 to 8 years is over. I wouldn't be surprised if they released another one in 3 years.

So let me summarize real quick:

• Xbox One X performs above its specs according to devs
• Xbox will release consoles more frequently than before
• Xbox One X is a lot cheaper than a comparable computer

 

[Chester Copperpot]

But can it run Crysis?

Checkmate atheists.

 

[Turk]

I would LOVE to see a PC under $500 that can run games like GTAV and BF4 on full graphics without break a sweat.

MB - $100-$125
Processor - $200-$300
Graphics Card - $300
RAM - $100

What about a case, cooling, PSU, etc.

If we compare used prices of computer parts to the cost of the new XB1X, it's not a rational comparison and the computer would still be more expensive when you factor everything in.

The one area where PC wins is monitor. I'm gonna probably spend another $2k on a TV for this thing, but hey, it's an excuse for me to get a bad ass TV.

 

[Mook]

Yes! Thanks to the new backwards compatibility.

Also, I forgot to mention. Microsoft plans on releasing Xbox's like iPhones. The idea of a new generation xbox every 5 to 8 years is over. I wouldn't be surprised if they released another one in 3 years.

So let me summarize real quick:

• Xbox One X performs above its specs according to devs
• Xbox will release consoles more frequently than before
• Xbox One X is a lot cheaper than a comparable computer

Not totally true. It's still up to the dev. So many Xbox 360 games that won't work on xbo still

 

[Mook]

I can't believe Brian threw in the towel. These are one of the more enjoyable discussions, for me at least, no one was even getting serious or personal with attacks. Now Rick will slink back into the shadows.

 

[Grabber]

The one area where PC wins is monitor. I'm gonna probably spend another $2k on a TV for this thing, but hey, it's an excuse for me to get a bad ass TV.

True, but, if you still want a good monitor, you're looking at $500-$1000 depending on the size, refresh rate and resolution.

4K TV's can be had for about 1K if you find the right deal for a good quality TV that is double the size.

I'd love to have FU money to have a badass gaming monitor and a 4K TV, but, for now, my 1440P 28" monitor will have to do. My 970 is showing it's age as well as my 4th gen processor and 6+ year old RAM.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Most are running at 4k... Where are you guys getting your info?

Um where? Upscale garbage doesn't count.

If the Scorpio is running at 1080p @60fps why would the current Xbox be running 4k? Lol

 

[Mook]

Don't think he was referring to the current Xbox, which can barely do 900p.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Well he said "most are running at 4k" which would mean current games Imo...

 

[Turk]

Um where? Upscale garbage doesn't count.

If the Scorpio is running at 1080p @60fps why would the current Xbox be running 4k? Lol

Dude, it's ARK. Almost every game shown at e3 was 4k gameplay footage.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

I didn't even mention ARK.

 

[Turk]

I didn't even mention ARK.

Well show me what game Scorpio is running at 1080p at 60fps.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

I was just basing it off your post of 1080p@60 FPS

 

[Grabber]

According to the coverage at E3, the new XB1X games are 4K, not the current ones on the XB1 or XB1S platforms. They also said only a handful of games will be 4K, which include ARK, Forza 7, Thieves, etc.

 

[Turk]

I was just basing it off your post of 1080p@60 FPS

Exactly. That article is specifically about the game ARK. Then when I tell you it's about ARK you tell me, "I never even mentioned ARK".

Matt, put the blunt down buddy.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Exactly. That article is specifically about the game ARK. Then when I tell you it's about ARK you tell me, "I never even mentioned ARK".

Matt, put the blunt down buddy.

I didnt read the article and just assumed everything was 1080@60fps

MY BAD

 

[Turk]

I didnt read the article and just assumed everything was 1080@60fps

MY BAD

It's up to the devs, but based on what I'm seeing, 99% of Microsoft first party games will run at 4k native. 3rd party games will run at a higher resolution than 1080p, but maybe not native 4k.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Yeah I was just reading an article saying Microsoft wants everything running​ 4k

 

[Mook]

lol. super powerful system, locked at 30fps.

E3 2017: Bungie Confirms Destiny 2 Is 30FPS on Xbox One X - IGN

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Bungie has turned to shit