Hey. You can get Scat Pack Chargers for under 35k.

[Mook]

My 5.0 didn't. I had a base car. But yeah its my opinion. I was suffering. DDing that car took all the fun out of driving it for pleasure. I use to take the car out at night and rip around, and I stopped doing that because I was sick of driving it.

It was just the wrong car for me. Nowadays, I want loaded or nothing. The new car will have every option. I priced out these chargers and they are great value. I would need a white one with all the toys. Probably closer to $47k. Same with the challenger. I would prefer the challenger, but the charger would meet my space needs a little better. But I just cant wrap my mind around having a sedan as my fun car.

The 5.0 was that bad? I drove Marks and I found the clutch to be so effortless...that was in a new style tho so maybe its a bit different? Dunno.

 

[Outlaw]

I DD'd Manual cars from Lake Zurich to Downtown Chicago 6 days a week for three years as well as a bunch of driving around while I was down there during the work day, and then from Lake Zurich to West Chicago for another year or so... Never had any complaints. Again, different strokes, but, I'd be far more pissed if I was trying to have fun with an automatic car I wanted in manual vs. being pissed the one or two days a year traffic really blows and I'm in a stick shift car...

 

[EmersonHart13]

at this again.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

I actually think just holding the brake and letting off then back on in an auto car is more tiring. I've never once been inconvenienced by a manual car at any point in life

 

[Yaj Yak]

But manual is slower, you'll never be fast :jerkit:

The driving manual in traffic excuse is so tired. The only time I've griped about it is with the Evo and thats in bumper to bumper. Otherwise, especially with modern cars, the clutch is so light and effortless, I dont even notice it.

But its always different strokes, and I understand that so I'm definitely not looking to pick a fight.

Also, not being able to use the phone or eat? Bro...come on Dont all new cars have bluetooth?

agreed on all accounts.

beemer doesn't have bluetooth and i yackity yack on the phone

 

[TCG Member 5219]

traffic. I put 100k on my Subaru in 5 years and sat in traffic twice a day. Zero fucks given. You must be the weakest person alive. Also multitasking is not harder in a manual car

Necessary? Opinions man, everyone has them.

 

[1quick]

All the manuals I've ever had were DD's one time I spilled a cup of coffee otherwise they were enjoyable lol

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Necessary? Opinions man, everyone has them.

Weak legs, thin skin.

 

[Mook]

Lets keep this thread on track and not go down the path its already going.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

I can get on board with this if I wasnt going to DD it. But in traffic every day, you will be singing a different tune. The last few weeks I had my 5.0, I DD'd it to work. By the end when I sold it, I wanted to break the stick off and jam it in my eye. The stop and go with the manual, plus not really being able to use the phone or eat while driving sucked big time.

Again these are DD problems, but Im not going to let my next car sit and save the miles for the next guy. Not at the hundreds of dollars per month its going to cost me to own it. Plus only really being able to drive it in summer, Im going to get my monies worth this time around.

The driving manual in traffic excuse is so tired. The only time I've griped about it is with the Evo and thats in bumper to bumper. Otherwise, especially with modern cars, the clutch is so light and effortless, I dont even notice it.

But its always different strokes, and I understand that so I'm definitely not looking to pick a fight.

Also, not being able to use the phone or eat? Bro...come on Dont all new cars have bluetooth?

I drove from LITH to Naperville every day in the summer with my GT. 47 miles one way, 100mi a day round trip after visiting Megan. Not a single gripe about manuals in traffic. I even removed the helper spring from the clutch pedal so the clutch was even "heavier" than a bone stock manual GT.

 

[Yaj Yak]

i would have just been annoyed as fuck with that drive, manual or auto

 

[TCG Member 5219]

Weak legs, thin skin.

Ahaha. Im growing my skin out. As for the weak legs, I did dislocated my left knee twice in my 20s. Thats been bothering me for a few years, and yeah its going to take a toll as I approach 40. It would be nice not to feel my knee click every time I push down the clutch.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

i would have just been annoyed as fuck with that drive, manual or auto

It got old very, very, VERY quickly.

Anyway. Those prices are right where I paid for my Challenger. Seriously, anyone who's on the fence of buying either a Charger or a Challenger right now should, period.

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Want soooo bad.

 

[IceCreamAssassin]

I've had one non manual dd over the last 20 years. It was so boring. I'm sure the right auto would be okay, but it's not a minivan lol

 

[EmersonHart13]

Lets keep this thread on track and not go down the path its already going.

Too late... The writing was on the wall when this post was created.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

I've had one non manual dd over the last 20 years. It was so boring. I'm sure the right auto would be okay, but it's not a minivan lol

Many can attest to this, but the auto in the charger and available in the challenger is the right auto. Its as close to a DCT as you can get.

 

[IceCreamAssassin]

I test drive a r/t before I bought the brz, was not impressed. Couldn't afford the scat pack though

 

[1quick]

If I get bored with my auto I can always just shift it with the paddle shifters lol

 

[EmersonHart13]

I have had several cars with those, literally never use.

 

[1quick]

I have had several cars with those, literally never use.

Only useful for holding a gear for a roll race as soon as I get on the gas I push the shifter back to drive

 

[TCG Member 5219]

If I get bored with my auto I can always just shift it with the paddle shifters lol

I have had several cars with those, literally never use.

Those are my favorite part with the challenger/charger. They are very reactive and the trans acts on your input in 160ms I believe. They make all the difference. Plus when the car is in sport mode, the trans hits hard in every gear and also downshifts every gear with or without the paddles. I would use them almost every day.

Compare them to the 8 speed auto in the camaro or corvette. The paddles in those cars are just for suggesting gear changes to the car. Then if it wants to, it "gets around to it" on its own leisurely schedule. They are awful. Pull the paddle, take a smoke break, then the car will shift. GM needs to get on that.

 

[Yaj Yak]

[MENTION=5219]ZXMustang[/MENTION] you gonna buy one of these things, or something, sometime soon, or just be an encyclopedia for newer domestic muscle & pony cars?

 

[TCG Member 5219]

[MENTION=5219]ZXMustang[/MENTION] you gonna buy one of these things, or something, sometime soon, or just be an encyclopedia for newer domestic muscle & pony cars?

I knew a callout like this was coming.

Heres my plan. I wasnt ready to buy this year when all those deals for 20% where flying around. But they got me thinking. I missed those deals on the 2016 cars, but if I wait until the end of summer 2017, maybe I can get a 2017 for those same deals. Dodge even jumped on the 20% off band wagon.

So since I've waited all this time already, I can stand another summer without a car and come the end of august, I will try to find a deal on a 2017. And if those 20% deals dont exist anymore, then I will just pull the trigger anyway. Atleast I know I waited for the right deal.

Besides my wants/needs change as the wind changes direction. Last week I was convinced on getting a 6th gen camaro. Then this week I've been thinking about a 2018 mustang with this new magical 10 speed. Then there are all those older used cars like the 13/14 GT500s and who knows what the prices of the GT350s will be. I literally will be keeping my options open until the last minute before I pull the rip cord.

Either way though, the longer I wait, the more money I can put down too. So its a win-win. It just sucks to watch another summer go by without being able to participate in all the car activities that will be going down. Man I miss test and tune drag racing.

But yeah its going to happen this year, probably at the end of summer.

 

[Yaj Yak]

wasn't a call out, just a legit question.