Vintage cars, restomods and how to execute correctly (and poorly) THANKS BOOMERS

[frank]

was out driving and noticed a few boomers driving their 50’s-60’s muscle cars and C4 vette’s Lol, what’s going to happen to these cars? Are the next generations going to want them? I mean they look nice but anything newer then 00’ is a better buy all around.

would you keep the classic car hobby going and pay 50-100k for a fully restored 10/10 gto say with drum brakes all around and less hp then a most cars in the road today?


Thoughts?

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[Chester Copperpot]

Absolutely the fuck not.

I can't wait for the muscle car overinflation to absolute rock bottom out and find out how many of these are 3/4 bondo.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Ain't Goin nowhere

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

was out driving and noticed a few boomers driving their 50’s-60’s muscle cars and C4 vette’s Lol, what’s going to happen to these cars? Are the next generations going to want them? I mean they look nice but anything newer then 00’ is a better buy all around.

would you keep the classic car hobby going and pay 50-100k for a fully restored 10/10 gto say with drum brakes all around and less hp then a most cars in the road today?


Thoughts?

I loved muscle cars growing up, LOVED Them, but not in a million years could I imagine paying $50k+ for a car that would lose a race to most stock pickup trucks made today. Even at $30k i'd be thinking "mehhhhhh I'd rather just take that cash and put it down on a $50k zl1"

 

[Yaj Yak]

I loved muscle cars growing up, LOVED Them, but not in a million years could I imagine paying $50k+ for a car that would lose a race to most stock pickup trucks made today. Even at $30k i'd be thinking "mehhhhhh I'd rather just take that cash and put it down on a $50k zl1"

here's the difference.

the 50k+ slower than a pickup truck car could and likely will appreciate.

the ZL1 will not.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

here's the difference.

the 50k+ slower than a pickup truck car could and likely will appreciate.

the ZL1 will not.

Truth

still wouldn't spend big money on something that is only fun to look at, not drive

 

[cdh027]

Its a different mindset. They are cool cars and should be appreciated for what they are. Technology will always advance and make cars faster and handle better. There will always be a market for classic muscle cars. Look whats happening with cars that we grew up with. The GN/GNX and foxbody mustang is a good example.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Truth

still wouldn't spend big money on something that is only fun to look at, not drive

you value your money differently than others.


just like everyone.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Clean muscle cars would probably a little more reasonably priced if the boomers didn't total most of them whilst doing all the drugs and drinking all the alcohol amirite

 

[Kensington]

Resto mod muscle cars....the style of original, with the driveability, performance, and handling of a modern vehicle.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Resto mod muscle cars....the style of original, with the driveability, performance, and handling of a modern vehicle.

great on paper.

98% of examples executed terribly.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Great White Drake being 10000% the exception to my rule.


id kidnap him for that car i think.

 

[Kensington]

great on paper.

98% of examples executed terribly.

It seems so easy on paper

 

[Yaj Yak]

It seems so easy on paper

rule number one should be never, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER put bowties in your headrests.

there's a 99% chance the upholstery shop will have the ratio wrong and it will look like this:

 

[Kensington]

I mean, here's my recipe...

Find late 60's Nova...I6 car, whatever just as long as it's rust free and straight....replace all body mounts, completely throw away stock suspension, Mustang II IFS, 3-link and coil-overs or similar in the rear, LQ4 and 4L60 (for cruising) or T56 (for fun) with a Holley or similar FI kit. Digital dash. Obviously discs all around, so new master cylinder. Just ditch the old pedal box for a modern one with drive-by-wire. Grab some seats out of something from this century and a half cage.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I mean, here's my recipe...

Find late 60's Nova...I6 car, whatever just as long as it's rust free and straight....replace all body mounts, completely throw away stock suspension, Mustang II IFS, 3-link and coil-overs or similar in the rear, LQ4 and 4L60 (for cruising) or T56 (for fun) with a Holley or similar FI kit. Digital dash. Obviously discs all around, so new master cylinder. Just ditch the old pedal box for a modern one with drive-by-wire. Grab some seats out of something from this century and a half cage.

parts lists are easy. execution and finishing touches/attention to detail isn't. chuknowimsayin

imma break this talk out of this thread actually unless someone opposes.

 

[Yaj Yak]

gah lets find some "badly" done ones.

 

[Kensington]

parts lists are easy. execution and finishing touches/attention to detail isn't. chuknowimsayin

imma break this talk out of this thread actually unless someone opposes.

Agreed, why I was trying to make my plan as simple as possible. Off the shelf shit, nothing really custom or earth shattering. Is it a matter of people biting off more than they can chew?

 

[Kensington]

Also, what are we considering bad? Poorly executed? Ugly? Etc. Or all of the above?

 

[dun4791]

Meh, the only thing old muscle cars do well, is look cool. They literally do nothing else.

 

[Yaj Yak]

welpp that didn't take long.

what the fuck is this paint job

1965 Ford Mustang | eBay

1965 Ford Mustang Fastback Restomod. Lights, signals, wipers all function as they should. AC and heat work properly. Coil overs in the front, air shocks in the rear. Rear-exit dual exhaust. Roll bar (see interior pics).

www.ebay.com

did you just hole saw a 6 & a half shit alpine speaker

 

[zenriddles]

Truth

still wouldn't spend big money on something that is only fun to look at, not drive

Different experience. If one wants to go fast, get on a bike.

Driving around in my old 94 Lightning I am amazed at how much attention - honks, waves, thumbs up, offers to buy at stoplights - that thing gets. That is something the old muscle cars bring more than anything.

Any classic car owner who's stock would be the first to tell you a sassy Jeep could probably outrun me if it wanted to nowadays, but nobody is gonna notice the new car. The slower you go, the more attention you get in the classic.

 

[Yaj Yak]

1983 Chevrolet C-10 | eBay

1983 chevy c10 short bed pick up. 10 bolt rear. nice custom truck. clean under carriage. tonneau cover. everything works all gauges lights ect. has not been in rain. really cold ac.

www.ebay.com

 

[dun4791]

Different experience. If one wants to go fast, get on a bike.

Driving around in my old 94 Lightning I am amazed at how much attention - honks, waves, thumbs up, offers to buy at stoplights - that thing gets. That is something the old muscle cars bring more than anything.

Any classic car owner who's stock would be the first to tell you a sassy Jeep could probably outrun me if it wanted to nowadays, but nobody is gonna notice the new car. The slower you go, the more attention you get in the classic.

So for those who are just looking for attention, old muscle cars are perfect.
Just as bad as the Harley revvers at the stop lights.

hey....look at me I’m cool. I didn’t buy this for me, I bought it for others to covet me.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

I've been thinking about restomodding the TTA, simply because I can't believe how much I forgot carb 101 and having to set timing/dwell and all that fun stuff I grew up learning. We've come so far...

Find a complete LSA engine/driveline/PCM & harness online somewhere, drop in, call it a day.