The new 2018 Wrangler got awesome- better in every way.

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Alternator doesnt send power to the engine to POWER the wheels....

neither does what they described....

Another name for a mild hybrid system; eTorque replaces the alternator with a Motor Generator Unit that charges the 12-volt battery CHARGES BATTERY, sends torque to the engine’s crankshaft via the accessory belt SENDS TORQUE TO CAMSHAFT, NOT WHEELS[/B], and turns the vehicle’s forward motion into current for the liquid-cooled 48-volt lithium-ion battery CONVERTS FORWARD MOTION FOR CHARGING BATTERY.

Just because it sends power to the crankshaft, doesn't mean its the only device doing it.

 

[Yaj Yak]

doesn't GM have a similar high voltage alternator for their "hybrid"cars?

this new wrangler looks awesome. finally an interior that isnt from the early 2000s. i hear it doesn't ride like a dump truck either. plus a doozel and hybrid? fuck yes jeep, well done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAS_Hybrid

apparently for more than ten years

BAS is an acronym for belted alternator starter. It is a category of automotive parallel hybrid technology that uses an electric motor to contribute power to the internal combustion engine's crankshaft via a serpentine belt. By mounting this motor generator unit in the conventional location traditionally used for the standard automotive alternator, it permits a low-cost method of adding mild hybrid capabilities such as start-stop, power assist, and mild levels of regenerative braking. BAS differ from other mild hybrid systems as they are not run off the vehicle's crankshaft.

General Motors introduced a mild hybrid system called belt alternator starter (or BAS) in the 2007 Saturn Vue Green Line. The BAS system is also used in the 2008-2009 Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid. It operates similarly to other mild hybrids with a start-stop system, in that it shuts down the engine as the vehicle comes to a stop and instantly restarts it when the brake pedal is released.[1]

 

[RICH17]

Okay Then I am reading this wrong. Mild hybrid means that its not powering the wheels in any way.

 

[Yaj Yak]

but... it is.

 

[Yaj Yak]

power from the battery

moves the generator

spins the belt

drives the crank

turns the gears

makes the tires go turny turny

 

[RICH17]

but doesn't the engine send a metric BUTTFUCK ton of power through the belt to the alternator

power from the battery

moves the generator

spins the belt

drives the crank

turns the gears

makes the tires go turny turny

okay so you dont think that would make for harder belt wear? Maybe they have an upgraded belt. Looks wide in the picture too

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Can you get it with a manual? Because it would be awesome to use for bump starts over obstacles. I know the FJ had a setup for that but using the hybrid motor would be better due to more power than the starter

 

[Yaj Yak]

okay so you dont think that would make for harder belt wear? Maybe they have an upgraded belt. Looks wide in the picture too

dude do you know what belts can power that take crazy amounts of power to turn?

 

[Pressure Ratio]

Don't some engines with auto start-stop functions also use an alternator type thingy to start the engines? Pretty sure that was a thing.

 

[RICH17]

New cherokee front end is much better but looks almost too pedestrian now.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Don't some engines with auto start-stop functions also use an alternator type thingy to start the engines? Pretty sure that was a thing.

thats what is in this new jeep. it aint new

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Rich17, ruining threads since Thursday’s were invented.

 

[Pressure Ratio]

thats what is in this new jeep. it aint new

Then why is Rich so confused? lol

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[Yaj Yak]

I legit can't find where to build a hybrid jeep on their site.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Last time I looked they didn’t have any engine options yet

 

[Yaj Yak]

FUCKING OUT

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Only thing gayer than the Jeep wave is the Raptor wave. I don't know you, stop waving.

 

[MikeyLikesIt]

I don't think they went far enough with the exterior. It reminds me of the new Tacoma vs the old Tacoma. I was hoping for more.

I priced out a 2018 Sahara JK on Jeep's website and went over $50k.

 

[Yaj Yak]

lol did you add every option?!


I built a rubicon, manual trans, it has 35's on it so that's set, did the steel bumpers, and cold weather package at it was at 43k...

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

lol did you add every option?!


I built a rubicon, manual trans, it has 35's on it so that's set, did the steel bumpers, and cold weather package at it was at 43k...

But it comes with 33’s

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Also I read the rubicon has hydraulic bump stops

 

[Yaj Yak]

But it comes with 33’s

The engineering team even designed all of the systems to protect for 35-inch tires, and the Rubicon now comes with one-inch-larger 33-inch tires standard.

I misunderstood that portion in my quick glance, my bad.


pretty awesome though that they are like HEY 35'S FIT AND ARE GOOD TO GO

 

[Yaj Yak]

The Rubicon version of the JL has what amounts to a Mopar High Top fender kit from the factory, sitting a full 2 inches higher than the Sport or Sahara models. This allows the JL to fit 35-inch tires right from the showroom floor. You’ll want to add a 2-inch lift kit if you want full articulation without any rubbing on a Rubicon when running stock wheels..

almost

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

Coming to a strip mall parking lot near you soon