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…. And back to drunk drivers and this vehicle crash
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If the focus is also age, then statistics say to hone in on younger drivers (teens) through mid-30 yrs as the focus group for fatality related accidents.

If you drive in Chicagoland roadways, keep an eye on 30s - 50s age group for aggressive driving / road rage.
This is only partially true, you're probably thinking of the total number of fatal crashes in those age groups which is not useful because you need to account for the number of drivers in the group and how many miles they drive on average. Not surprisingly, 80+ has the highest fatality rate


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This is only partially true, you're probably thinking of the total number of fatal crashes in those age groups which is not useful because you need to account for the number of drivers in the group and how many miles they drive on average. Not surprisingly, 80+ has the highest fatality rate


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Here is the rest of your data chart, which is from 2014-2015. Youngest to middle 30s.

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Highest % is youth through 34 yrs of age


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This is only partially true, you're probably thinking of the total number of fatal crashes in those age groups which is not useful because you need to account for the number of drivers in the group and how many miles they drive on average. Not surprisingly, 80+ has the highest fatality rate


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im glad you found this data because i was going to. :rofl:
 
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If the focus is also age, then statistics say to hone in on younger drivers (teens) through mid-30 yrs as the focus group for fatality related accidents.

If you drive in Chicagoland roadways, keep an eye on 30s - 50s age group for aggressive driving / road rage.

Here is the rest of your data chart, which is from 2014-2015. Youngest to middle 30s.

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Highest % is youth through 34 yrs of age


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You specifically referenced fatality related accidents, then ignore that in the data because it disagrees with your claim?
 
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Simply pointed out you posted partial data and within my follow up, if you scroll a little further down, is more current than you red chart.
I posted the data that was directly relevant to your claim. The rest was not relevant since you referenced fatal accidents.

Now you can argue that the cause for increased fatal accident rates in the 80+ age group is because old people die easier, not because of the severity of the accidents they cause, which may have merit.
 
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I posted the data that was directly relevant to your claim. The rest was not relevant since you referenced fatal accidents.

Now you can argue that the cause for increased fatal accident rates in the 80+ age group is because old people die easier, not because of the severity of the accidents they cause, which may have merit.

The second chart I posted was from 2020, while your data was 2014/2015.
 

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The second chart I posted was from 2020, while your data was 2014/2015.
And that 2020 chart doesn't show the rate of fatal accidents by category (and I don't feel like calculating it for each one), and doesn't account for average miles driven by category which is a big factor

Is there some reason to believe that 80+ year olds somehow became significantly better drivers between 2015 and 2020? If anything I like my data more because it's a full two year sample size, and if you read the methodology, whoever did that study was very thorough
 
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And that 2020 chart doesn't show the rate of fatal accidents by category (and I don't feel like calculating it for each one), and doesn't account for average miles driven by category which is a big factor

Is there some reason to believe that 80+ year olds somehow became significantly better drivers between 2015 and 2020? If anything I like my data more because it's a full two year sample size, and if you read the methodology, whoever did that study was very thorough

The whole chart below, which following the data the 16 - 34 drivers have the higher fatality rates. Source is also in the images.

Does grandma / grandpa kill people on the roadways? Yes, but let’s not underestimate the main population of drivers who need more attention on the roadways.

If anything, we need more frequent education and testing for all ages, especially younger adults.

And again, drunk driving played the key role in the 2014 accident in Oak Lawn.

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