🔧 BUILD Gtppower's 10 cylinders in a Veee

[GTPpower]

Ended up buying this yesterday. It's clean, basically rust free. It was about 4 hours away. I went on a day trip with the wife to get it. It's a 2005 f250 XL, zf6. 6.8 v10 3 valve. 3.73 rear. As you can see, the cab and box don't match. The box is from a 2001. I'm thinking I will paint the cab to match, but not sure. It's a lot cheaper to paint the box.




So, driving home, we did 70-75 most of the way. It got 13.5 mpg on that trip, which I don't think is terrible, but I was hoping for a bit better.

We had some flooding here yesterday due to the sudden warm-up, so I forgot to bring my laptop along to read codes. He told me the engine light was from evap. This morning I hooked it up to hpt, and ugh. At least parts are cheap.




So I loaded the parts cannon and ordered a couple new denso coils and a new o2 sensor, and the evap canister that it needs. We will see how much those parts fix.

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ohhh deng.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

I remember having an f350 work truck with a v10 and it did awesome burnouts

 

[Rdrnnr]

Neighbor had one he drove for a good 3 years. I don't think he ever even changed the oil the whole time and ran bald ass old school bfgs and somehow got around on the muddy roads and whatever just fine. I wanna say the electrical gave him fits once in a while tho

There a reason your keepin the evap? it hurts me to put money into things of that nature lol

 

[Rdrnnr]

Also bank two sensor two would be post cat and is it even still there? I'd say checks grounds and power to coils and whatever supplies it maybe a set of plugs and wires and eff those other codes right out of the box and enjoy it

 

[GTPpower]

Yeah, cats are still there. I just don't want any check engine lights.

I'll have to go through and check the wiring.

 

[Rdrnnr]

Yeah, cats are still there. I just don't want any check engine lights.

I'll have to go through and check the wiring.

Just go through and set those to no error. Cheaper than throwin parts when you'll pry unlock it to play with it anyway

 

[GTPpower]

I really don't have any intention to unlock it at this point. Maybe that'll change, but as of now, it's cheaper to replace the parts than to unlock it.

 

[Rdrnnr]

I hear ya man I like keepin stuff as it should be bit I've also got no issue sayin goodbye to unnecessary things rather than replacing em.

I'll see what the neighbors up to tonight and ask him if he remembers what the deal with his was. I wanna say there was somethin in the harness at one point and time and it'd come and go

 

[GTPpower]

This is basically something for my guys to drive when we are working out of town, or something for me when the power stroke needs work.

 

[Rdrnnr]

He said he thought at one time there was a sensor. And if you mess with coils do em all or they'll start takin each other out. I'm assuming there's a current draw when it comes to weak ones.

Also were these ever prone to plug issues or maybe plugs backing out? I don't know much bout these mythical beasts except the earlier ones drank gas made a shitload of noise and didn't go anywhere probably due to the trannys that felt like a sack of mashed potatoes. Perfect to put some guys in tho cuz I think they're pretty bulletproof

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

Hellll yeah. I used to have an 02’ RCLB V10, In white. Mileage is on par, aka crap. Wish I would have kept that thing

 

[GTPpower]

He said he thought at one time there was a sensor. And if you mess with coils do em all or they'll start takin each other out. I'm assuming there's a current draw when it comes to weak ones.

Also were these ever prone to plug issues or maybe plugs backing out? I don't know much bout these mythical beasts except the earlier ones drank gas made a shitload of noise and didn't go anywhere probably due to the trannys that felt like a sack of mashed potatoes. Perfect to put some guys in tho cuz I think they're pretty bulletproof

I don't have the option to scan current misfires with this sadly. I'm going to try and get hpt to add that.

The 2v's had problems with plugs shooting out on certain years. The 3v's had a problem with them breaking off in the head when trying to change them. Both had coils that liked to fail.

The 3v's have a good amount more power. Low-end torque is better than the 1st Gen 3.5 ecoboost.

 

[Rdrnnr]

Well hell yeah your already way ahead of what I know lol

 

[GTPpower]

Did some work today....





Replaced 4 & 8 coils.

New air filter.



New O2 sensor








And nothing changed. I still have all the same codes.

 

[Rdrnnr]

Did some work today....

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Replaced 4 & 8 coils.

New air filter.

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New O2 sensor

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And nothing changed. I still have all the same codes.

See I knew there was somethin that made it all pissy sometimes but he couldn't remember what it was all he could remember was some sensor. Itd run like total shit sometimes and it'd have tranny issues when it'd happen sometimes too I remember

 

[GTPpower]

It seems to run fine. It's really quiet, so I can't tell it's missing. Maybe if it was louder I could.

 

[Rdrnnr]

Lol you know what I'll tell you bout that. I'm a firm believer in high flow cats and resonators, ill play by the rules on emissions but if they wanna bitch about the noise they can go to hell

 

[GTPpower]

So, I don't think this has them, but the earlier v10's have super valuable cats. Like 99-01 years, the cats are worth a couple thousand. I'm sure these are worth a few hundred at least, so I might chop them off. We'll see.

Typical hpt has basically no helpful support for diagnostics on this thing. Luckily, FORscan is a free program that uses a elm327 and has access to tons of things. It can even program keys and works on the newer fords too. I figured that might be a good investment, since we have 3 ford vehicles now, all with well over 100k miles.

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Luckily, FORscan is a free program that uses a elm327 and has access to tons of things. It can even program keys and works on the newer fords too. I figured that might be a good investment, since we have 3 ford vehicles now, all with well over 100k miles.

I used Forscan to add factory remote start to my buddies 2011 F-150. Pretty slick, wish GM had something like that.

 

[Rdrnnr]

In the older ones case those cats would be worth more than most of those trucks then lol.

Not much in hp at all? or is it overcomplicated bs that runs through 18 different timing tables like the newer stuff? Do you think its somethin maybe they'd add some stuff for? Could always uncheck those boxes and watch for misfires and what its doin but I guess that depends on what it'll let you get into too.

For most diagnostic I just throw the bafx on stuff and use torque but this forscan thing sounds a bit more manufacturer specific and know that particular automaker things are generally easy to get at and a pain in the ass to sort out. From the stuff I've messed with Ford is a super big fan of leanin on the map sensor for control of most everything. Maybe that's a quick shot in the dark? My best guess is log every angle you can on it and see what's irregular and if it acts up at all but it sounds to me like somethin small thats tied into every other system just enough to be a pain in the ass. If it it those stupid mapped points holler at me you gotta plot allllll those bastards out by what percentage of what table its in and make your changes as such. I've got my head wrapped around the concept finally but I'm still doin the math on em the hard way til I screw with it enough to be able to just copy and paste my way through it like everything else.

Otherwise I'd be checkin every stupid little wire on it or maybe he was right about the coils and having to do them all at once (maybe it's kinda like the gm 0300 rando that makes you pull your hair out sometimes?)

Somethin simple tho, battery and everything good? Voltage issues seem to be the kinda things that drive me mad lately and I could see this bein somethin of that sort with the list its got poppin up

 

[GTPpower]

I used Forscan to add factory remote start to my buddies 2011 F-150. Pretty slick, wish GM had something like that.

That is awesome. My wife's 2014 edge doesn't have remote start, but we've always wanted it. Didn't even think of that.

 

[GTPpower]

In the older ones case those cats would be worth more than most of those trucks then lol.

Not much in hp at all? or is it overcomplicated bs that runs through 18 different timing tables like the newer stuff? Do you think its somethin maybe they'd add some stuff for? Could always uncheck those boxes and watch for misfires and what its doin but I guess that depends on what it'll let you get into too.

For most diagnostic I just throw the bafx on stuff and use torque but this forscan thing sounds a bit more manufacturer specific and know that particular automaker things are generally easy to get at and a pain in the ass to sort out. From the stuff I've messed with Ford is a super big fan of leanin on the map sensor for control of most everything. Maybe that's a quick shot in the dark? My best guess is log every angle you can on it and see what's irregular and if it acts up at all but it sounds to me like somethin small thats tied into every other system just enough to be a pain in the ass. If it it those stupid mapped points holler at me you gotta plot allllll those bastards out by what percentage of what table its in and make your changes as such. I've got my head wrapped around the concept finally but I'm still doin the math on em the hard way til I screw with it enough to be able to just copy and paste my way through it like everything else.

Otherwise I'd be checkin every stupid little wire on it or maybe he was right about the coils and having to do them all at once (maybe it's kinda like the gm 0300 rando that makes you pull your hair out sometimes?)

Somethin simple tho, battery and everything good? Voltage issues seem to be the kinda things that drive me mad lately and I could see this bein somethin of that sort with the list its got poppin up

I wish I could tell you any info on it, but I can't even scan live misfires with hpt. There really isn't anything useful that I can do with it. Hpt just sucks on ford's. Always has. It's gotten better, but still nowhere even close to what FORscan can do.

 

[Rdrnnr]

It does suck on ford's.

Don't take this the wrong way but did you resync your mpvi2 and repoll for parameters with no log file open and then check your channels list? I've run into this a few times. Bein a v10 they may not have much anyway tho. I tried to tie into a v8 toureag not too long ago and I was lucky enough to get ect and find thats where the issue was. Rpm didn't even populate.

I think that's why alot of guys stay away from em. I'd hop on one of their forums and tell them what you'd like to see on it tho. They seem somewhat responsive in the ecoboost threads I've been through and have added enough data to make my head spin there. More of a they don't mess with it unless there's a need kinda thing I guess. I'm gonna look into this forscan thing sounds like somethin I can use with my handy dandy bafx that'd be nice to have in my back pocket

 

[GTPpower]

I don't have a mpvi2. I have the old cable hardware... it's like 15 years old.

I got them to add a bunch of stuff on the 6.0 powerstrokes, but they were dedicating a lot of time to ficm tuning and transmission tuning on those, so I can see why they did.

They might add some stuff for me on the v10's too, but imo it's not worth the effort. FORscan will have way more than hpt ever could, so I'll just wait til the cord comes in.