the silverado's aren't all that different on their own body panels... some camaro's are though.
EPIC WET-SAND: BMW M3 full orange peel removal. Video
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the silverado's aren't all that different on their own body panels... some camaro's are though.
Was that my car from Lukes?? Yikes... If it was, my car was completely sanded with 3000 after they did the reclear on that burn in my paint. Still lots of peel on that car.
just a random pic I found on the internets. might be yours but i don't know 
heres the link
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/foru...r-paint-quality-rwd-interior.html#post2729783
heres the link
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/foru...r-paint-quality-rwd-interior.html#post2729783
Wow I can't believe some of the paint jobs on these high $$ cars. Not all domestics are bad though, I think my caddy looks good.
http://s439.photobucket.com/user/19...A-40A3-87A5-B2204D2E6CFD_zpsqw0g1tph.mp4.html
http://s439.photobucket.com/user/19...A-40A3-87A5-B2204D2E6CFD_zpsqw0g1tph.mp4.html
with the right setup- waterborne can be beneficial to a shop quite a bit.. but you just have to have insane drying power (airflow).
In the proper environment waterborn shouldn't leave any more or less peel.
the problem here lies in the fact that the majority of the people purchasing new vehicles, don't give a shit about it or know what it is (orange peel) and time can be saved just throwing paint on fast at the expense of the customers who "care"
In the proper environment waterborn shouldn't leave any more or less peel.
the problem here lies in the fact that the majority of the people purchasing new vehicles, don't give a shit about it or know what it is (orange peel) and time can be saved just throwing paint on fast at the expense of the customers who "care"
It is not hard. It is a pretty simple process. But experience goes a long way. Because you can burn through the clear and color if you are not careful. I think that is what scares most people away from doing this.
I worked at a shop that did a lot of World of Wheels, Detriot Autorama and other high end shows. I did A LOT of wet sanding there. Early on I had a couple spots I burned through paint. We are talking lots of clear coats because we knew we wanted to sand the orange peel out. But I learned quickly and was more careful. Way easier to take paint off slowly than it is to add the paint back on. haha
The guys that restore paint on old cars are what are real impressive. You are talking usually very thin paint they are working with. Measuring the paint thickness all over the place and after every process to make sure it isn't getting too thin. Experience and skill pay off big time for those guys.
I would imagine the gel coat on a boat is much thicker and durable than clear on a new car.
I don't think any one in this thread has said anything about not knowing or understanding wet sanding. I think it was more the outcome/quality of that work, and just knowing how long and expensive that was.
I'm not even sure I know how much that would cost for the entire job (with the full detail) but I would imagine more than a grand.
Water borne paint has nothing to do with orange peel lol.
1. Its how the clear is applied and how many coats that determines the peel. Because all car manufactures cut corners they apply just enough clear coat to make the car shine and push it out the door with no fucks given.
2. If you look through the clear and focus on the base coat you may or may not see that the base has the texture of sand. That could be because it was sprayed to dry or the sealer under the base is fucked and your not going to wet sand that out. sorry
3. Next time you see a newer silver domestic car out in the sun stand back and look at the entire side. You will see light and dark spots all over also probably stripes in the hood. This is again a base coat problem under the clear and that is the manufacture cutting corners again by not applying enough coats of base and you can see the sealer thought the base and clear. I say to look at silver Chevy Silverado or Traverse because it will be most noticeable. I can see the gray sealer the GM used through the white on my Grand Prix, drives me nuts.
I kept reading a lot of wrong info in this thread. Wet sanding clear only gets rid of the orange peel in the clear and the base has nothing to do with the texture of the clear. Its just the nature of the clear to want to flow out a little bit, therefore you can pound clear on horizontal panels like hood with out it running vs spraying a vertical panel
1. Its how the clear is applied and how many coats that determines the peel. Because all car manufactures cut corners they apply just enough clear coat to make the car shine and push it out the door with no fucks given.
2. If you look through the clear and focus on the base coat you may or may not see that the base has the texture of sand. That could be because it was sprayed to dry or the sealer under the base is fucked and your not going to wet sand that out. sorry
3. Next time you see a newer silver domestic car out in the sun stand back and look at the entire side. You will see light and dark spots all over also probably stripes in the hood. This is again a base coat problem under the clear and that is the manufacture cutting corners again by not applying enough coats of base and you can see the sealer thought the base and clear. I say to look at silver Chevy Silverado or Traverse because it will be most noticeable. I can see the gray sealer the GM used through the white on my Grand Prix, drives me nuts.
I kept reading a lot of wrong info in this thread. Wet sanding clear only gets rid of the orange peel in the clear and the base has nothing to do with the texture of the clear. Its just the nature of the clear to want to flow out a little bit, therefore you can pound clear on horizontal panels like hood with out it running vs spraying a vertical panel
Yeah plus there are special pads now too you can get from like 3m that simulate 3000 grit sandpaper but in cloth type for right? Like microfiber pads or something.
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