Drove a 22 Coyote a10 today...

[ZXMustang]

Brand new car, just came off the truck this week. 401 premium GT a10 with the active exhaust and all the bells and whistles (no performance pack).

What a piece of SHIT. This was a car my buddy was looking at, and I went with. We took it out for a decent drive. It was gutless, the trans was hunting all over the place for the right gear and you had to wring its neck to get any meaningful acceleration (had 3.55 gears).

I was thinking this was going to be a really nice car, but man quality has SLIPPED. The inside was a complete rattle trap. Both front seats squeaked and rattled over bumps. So did the rear deck and parts around the rear seats.

There were paint runners on the edge of the trunk and edge of the hood. Plus looks like the factory tried to fix some trash in the paint on the front bumper. It was a MESS.

The inner trunk lid liner was not snapped in with the christmas tree clips. Half were on the trunk floor, looks like they were not pushed in at all and just fell out.

Panel gaps were HORRIBLE.

It sounded nice with the active exhaust, but like I said completely gutless. I was quite disappointed.

They wanted Sticker + $5k ADM as well as a PLUS package for $1995 and an $899 dealer fee. Plus TTL...

It was over $60k out the door.

I'm sad to say that every car is going to be a Friday car now. QC issues and shitty workmanship.

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[Blood on Blood]

If I remember correctly the ‘21 and newer Mustangs are computer locked and cannot be tuned by a third party, aftermarket performance co. unless they have a partnership with Ford (who provides them the keys to the kingdom).

 

[GLADIATOR]

Tell us how you really feel

 

[01Cobra]

 

[Rent Free]

My 20 A10 with 3.55s is wayy better than the 18 A10 with 3.15s i think.

In sport mode open active exhaust and just a wimpy X pipe Ive been pretty happy with mine but i do need an e85 flex tune next at a minimum.

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

My 20 A10 with 3.55s is wayy better than the 18 A10 with 3.15s i think.

In sport mode open active exhaust and just a wimpy X pipe Ive been pretty happy with mine but i do need an e85 flex tune next at a minimum.

You need the blower setup from 01bluesnake

 

[Rent Free]

You need the blower setup from 01bluesnake

Fucking 11k HVAC system. My wallets crying good thing Im OCONUS now.

 

[01bluesnake]

You need the blower setup from 01bluesnake

Or twins lol

 

[IZZy]

I was under the impression that Ford has always struggled with panel gaps? Really any domestic manufacturer.

The A10 is known to be terrible driving around town always searching for gears.

Old news, pretty much what you get when you don’t buy an import.

 

[Sprayin]

The modes for the A10 make a pretty big difference in how the car drives. I hated driving mine around in normal. S+ was just about always what I used. It was much better that way. Then again, car made it maybe 500 miles before I had a tune in it.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

sixty
thousand
dollars

and I lol'd at "what a piece of SHIT" out of nowhere

 

[frank]

for 60k I would buy two vehicles as in a sports car and truck for the best of both .

Knowing it’s ZX’s friend I’m sure it will be traded in for a something else shortly.

 

[1quick]

The modes for the A10 make a pretty big difference in how the car drives. I hated driving mine around in normal. S+ was just about always what I used. It was much better that way. Then again, car made it maybe 500 miles before I had a tune in it.

Sport mode and a tune make a huge difference, it feels way different than a 6r80 though

 

[Jeffs FRC]

Stock 11 second car that is nearly as quick as a ZL1, completely gutless ? lol

 

[ZXMustang]

Stock 11 second car that is nearly as quick as a ZL1, completely gutless ? lol

Nearly as quick as ZL1? Yeah pass that shit man...lol But gutless for spirited driving and rolling on the gas part to 3/4 throttle absolutely. It just didnt want to move. Then you push in 85% or so throttle and it drops 15 gears and wants to scream at 7k... It was quite a high strung bitch. Little to no passing/roll on power, and the trans was clueless. Im sure a great tuner could clean that up. But for those not modding, it was a joke.

In the ZL1 is just seems to always be in the right gear, and when its not the PD blower covers the gap while it changes gears and the roll on power is fantastic. Sure the GT is no 650hp 6.2, but according to Jeff its nearly as quick as a ZL1....LOL Reality tho, its mighty different.

 

[Blood on Blood]

sixty
thousand
dollars

and I lol'd at "what a piece of SHIT" out of nowhere

Agree, only thing worthy of discussing is the ridiculous $60k price tag

 

[Chet Donnelly]

Its no more trashy, rattly, gappy than any ZL1 I've ever seen. Both are what they are.....they use union manufacturing and its garbage.

 

[GLADIATOR]

I drove my son’s 19 5.0 GT w/10 Spd for a month for work all over IL and I swear to the Ford gods i did not experience this lost shifting for gears once…fake news.

 

[ZXMustang]

Its no more trashy, rattly, gappy than any ZL1 I've ever seen. Both are what they are.....they use union manufacturing and its garbage.

Not sure about that man. My ZL1 has alcantara on every surface you touch. The inside is whisper quite and it just feels like a premium car. The ride, the trans and the power all work together and make a really great driver's car. I dont see any of those issues you said and I had the 18 and now the 21. I dont see posts like that either on camaro forums more specifically about the ZL1/ZL1 1LE quality/qc issues. The only thing that comes up all the time is outward visibility, the 17/18 oil pump issue and the 1LE's teeth rattling ride on the street.

The normal ZL1 is a super compliant sports car that doesnt pretend to be some hulking tire smoking hellcat. It just hooks and goes, TC off or on. It turns, stops and feels like a drivers car while doing it. Im pretty in love with this car if you couldnt tell. I've sampled just about everything in the Mustang GT to hellcat/ZL1 price range. Nothing ticks all the boxes and does it with the reliability and quality that I see in the ZL1. I cant speak for the current SS/LT1/RS cars. Those are much more plastic like. But GM make sure that every place where your ass, hands, elbows and leg/knee touches is covered in soft alcantara. Its a breeze to keep clean too with that sonax alcantara cleaner.

 

[Chet Donnelly]

Not sure about that man. My ZL1 has alcantara on every surface you touch. The inside is whisper quite and it just feels like a premium car. The ride, the trans and the power all work together and make a really great driver's car. I dont see any of those issues you said and I had the 18 and now the 21. I dont see posts like that either on camaro forums more specifically about the ZL1/ZL1 1LE. The only thing that comes up all the time is outward visibility, the 17/18 oil pump issue and the 1LE's teeth rattling ride on the street.

The normal ZL1 is a super compliant sports car that doesnt pretend to be some hulking tire smoking hellcat. It just hooks and goes, TC off or on. It turns, stops and feels like a drivers car while doing it. Im pretty in love with this car if you couldnt tell. I've sampled just about everything in the Mustang GT to hellcat/ZL1 price range. Nothing ticks all the boxes and does it with the reliability and quality that I see in the ZL1. I cant speak for the current SS/LT1/RS cars. Those are much more plastic like. But GM make sure that every place where your ass, hands, elbows and leg/knee touches is covered in soft alcantara. Its a breeze to keep clean too with that sonax alcantara cleaner.

I've been in a ZL1, it's a lipstick wearing pig interior. And definitely typical union made rattling, things not aligned, etc.

 

[ZXMustang]

I drove my son’s 19 5.0 GT w/10 Spd for a month for work all over IL and I swear to the Ford gods i did not experience this lost shifting for gears once…fake news.

Was just my opinion man. You can agree or disagree, no skin off my ass. But Im just saying I was shocked at how shit this new one was.

 

[ZXMustang]

I've been in a ZL1, it's a lipstick wearing pig interior. And definitely typical union made rattling, things not aligned, etc.

Maybe 5th gen ZL1? Those and the 5th gen Z28 has notoriously bad interiors. The 6th gen was a massive upgrade. I dont feel any of what you are saying.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

nearly as quick as a ZL1

Wut

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

I drove my son’s 19 5.0 GT w/10 Spd for a month for work all over IL and I swear to the Ford gods i did not experience this lost shifting for gears once…fake news.

Compared to your 3 speed taco it prob felt like a spaceship

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Compared to your 3 speed taco it prob felt like a spaceship