Drove a 22 Coyote a10 today...

[Jimy Bilmo]

 

[Jeffs FRC]

Wut

A stock ass A10 5.0 is about .5 slower than a ZL1 in a quarter. Calling the car gutless is laughable. I feel like his review is juuuuuuust a touch bias. The thing we should be discussing is how this 45k car is going for 60k+

I guess if I got in a stock ZL1 it would feel like driving my wife’s minivan, so I guess I can see where he’s coming from.

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

A stock ass A10 5.0 is about .5 slower than a ZL1 in a quarter. Calling the car gutless is laughable. I feel like his review is juuuuuuust a touch bias. The thing we should be discussing is how this 45k car is going for 60k+

I guess if I got in a stock ZL1 it would feel like driving my wife’s minivan, so I guess I can see where he’s coming from.

Would you be driving the minivan or the tow truck??

 

[Jeffs FRC]

Would you be driving the minivan or the tow truck??

Minivan has been problem free since I last got it back. Let’s hope it stays that way! Lol

 

[jason05gt]

Maybe 5th gen ZL1? Those and the 5th gen Z28 has notoriously bad interiors. The 6th gen was a massive upgrade. I dont feel any of what you are saying.

GM’s only decent sports car interior is the C8 and it’s still behind ze Germans. Camaro interiors are cheap looking and always have been that way.

 

[The Beast]

GM’s only decent sports car interior is the C8 and it’s still behind ze Germans. Camaro interiors are cheap looking and always have been that way.

It’s not that impressive with its c4 buttons running between the passenger and driver. The seats were just ok nothing to brag about. I’m sure the Z will be more upgraded. Now the Camaro I can not get passed the cluster looking like the same as a 21-22 spark, Colorado, Malibu, blazer, and trailblazer and that shit looks like 2001 all over again.

 

[The Beast]

Gm, Ford and Dodge have all issues it’s nothing new and don’t think either one is superior than the other it’s been like that for years. Look at zx he went on and on how great the charger was and next thing u know he trades it in because it has issues and thinks it’s a piece of shit. I’m sure if u go on different forums u will find all kinds of issues with new cars in the past few years. But to say the car is a turd come on now it’s not that much slower than a zl1 stock to stock.

 

[VenomousDSG]

This thread brings the LOLs

 

[Terminator-Fux]

Only 60K? Sounds poverty spec to me.

 

[The Beast]

I think they are all nice the s550 stang, 6th gen maro, and the dodge chargers-challengers it’s a shame 2 will be gone soon.

 

[GLADIATOR]

Compared to your 3 speed taco it prob felt like a spaceship

 

[ZXMustang]

Gm, Ford and Dodge have all issues it’s nothing new and don’t think either one is superior than the other it’s been like that for years. Look at zx he went on and on how great the charger was and next thing u know he trades it in because it has issues and thinks it’s a piece of shit. I’m sure if u go on different forums u will find all kinds of issues with new cars in the past few years. But to say the car is a turd come on now it’s not that much slower than a zl1 stock to stock.

Funny story. My old charger popped a check engine light right after it was traded in. Spent 45 days at the local Dodge dealer waiting for a new harness, a handful of injectors and another fuel pump. I know this because Im still attached to the Uconnect app for it and I get emails with the vehicle health report. I called the dealer it was at when the car finally moved again and they told me what was replaced.

I "dodged" a bullet with that car. They wouldn't say if it was covered under warranty. The car popped another check engine light and a brake system light as well a few days ago again. Its still not sold BTW, its at some luxury car dealer now.

 

[Blood on Blood]

Funny story. My old charger popped a check engine light right after it was traded in. Spent 45 days at the local Dodge dealer waiting for a new harness, a handful of injectors and another fuel pump. I know this because Im still attached to the Uconnect app for it and I get emails with the vehicle health report. I called the dealer it was at when the car finally moved again and they told me what was replaced.

I "dodged" a bullet with that car. They wouldn't say if it was covered under warranty. The car popped another check engine light and a brake system light as well a few days ago again. Its still not sold BTW, its at some luxury car dealer now.

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We’ve moved on from your 30 seconds of ownership of a Hellcat.

Let’s stay focused on understanding $60K for a Mustang GT

 

[The Beast]

Funny story. My old charger popped a check engine light right after it was traded in. Spent 45 days at the local Dodge dealer waiting for a new harness, a handful of injectors and another fuel pump. I know this because Im still attached to the Uconnect app for it and I get emails with the vehicle health report. I called the dealer it was at when the car finally moved again and they told me what was replaced.

I "dodged" a bullet with that car. They wouldn't say if it was covered under warranty. The car popped another check engine light and a brake system light as well a few days ago again. Its still not sold BTW, its at some luxury car dealer now.

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But but when u first bought it was the greatest car ever built and king of the road and touched by GOD himself. Then u sell it and now it’s a piece of shit come on now . Like I said the big 3 have there issues and so do the rest of the manufactures. Trust me we just don’t have time to read all the nonsense about every car. No need to bash any of them imo.

 

[The Beast]

We’ve moved on from your 30 seconds of ownership of a Hellcat.

Let’s stay focused on understanding $60K for a Mustang GT

A mach one is 56k starting how is a GT 60k msrp? Especially with a 10 speed if I recall the PP2 is only a 6 speed and that’s an expensive pkg and don’t quote me on this I don’t know all the mustang equipment. I just don’t care anymore.

 

[ZXMustang]

But but when u first bought it was the greatest car ever built and king of the road and touched by GOD himself. Then u sell it and now it’s a piece of shit come on now . Like I said the big 3 have there issues and so do the rest of the manufactures. Trust me we just don’t have time to read all the nonsense about every car. No need to bash any of them imo.

I never said the charger hellcat was a piece of shit. MY old charger hellcat was a piece of shit. The hellcats are nice. I'd love to own both that and the ZL1, but thats a big stretch. But I still like the hellcats. They have that awesome powertrain and ability to make power for cheap. Granted they are rental cars with 700+ HP, but my opinions never changed.

I was never put off by the brand/model itself. You are making it sound like I was kissing its ass then completely shit talking the brand/model after. My personal experience is not common, but its getting more common the more these covid cars come off the line. QC has slipped on both the parts and workmanship. You are going to be fighting this for a few years with cars made from late 21-24 I bet. Same with electronics now. They are seeing more failures than ever on new products.

 

[ZXMustang]

A mach one is 56k starting how is a GT 60k msrp? Especially with a 10 speed if I recall the PP2 is only a 6 speed and that’s an expensive pkg and don’t quote me on this I don’t know all the mustang equipment. I just don’t care anymore.

Did you guys not read the post?? I laid it out.

Sticker was like $52k. There was a $5k ADM. $1995 addon package you could not avoid. $899 dealer fee, plus TTL. Say 8% Tax. You're at $60kish before tax is applied.

 

[Blood on Blood]

I never said the charger hellcat was a piece of this. MY old charger hellcat was a piece of shit. They hellcats are nice. I'd love to own both that and the ZL1, but thats a big stretch. But I still like the hellcats. They have that awesome powertrain and ability to make power for cheap. Granted they are rental cars with 700+ HP, but my opinions never changed.

I was never put off by the brand/model itself. You are making it sound like I was kissing its ass then completely shit talking the brand/model after. My personal experience is not common, but its getting more common the more these covid cars come off the line. QC has slipped on both the parts and workmanship. You are going to be fighting this for a few years with cars made from late 21-24 I bet. Same with electronics now. They are seeing more failures than ever on new products.

 

[Blood on Blood]

Did you guys not read the post?? I laid it out.

Sticker was like $52k. There was a $5k ADM. $1995 addon package you could not avoid. $899 dealer fee, plus TTL. Say 8% Tax. You're at $60kish before tax is applied.

There’s an Ass for every Seat.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Doesn’t the mustang have the same trans as the zl1? I mean I get there’s tuning differences but it’s still the same hardware…..

 

[The Beast]

I never said the charger hellcat was a piece of this. MY old charger hellcat was a piece of shit. They hellcats are nice. I'd love to own both that and the ZL1, but thats a big stretch. But I still like the hellcats. They have that awesome powertrain and ability to make power for cheap. Granted they are rental cars with 700+ HP, but my opinions never changed.

I was never put off by the brand/model itself. You are making it sound like I was kissing its ass then completely shit talking the brand/model after. My personal experience is not common, but its getting more common the more these covid cars come off the line. QC has slipped on both the parts and workmanship. You are going to be fighting this for a few years with cars made from late 21-24 I bet. Same with electronics now. They are seeing more failures than ever on new products.

It hasn’t changed in 15 years it’s all the same crap even if u spend 20k or 180k they all have lots issues with electronics, engine failures and build quality.

 

[The Beast]

Did you guys not read the post?? I laid it out.

Sticker was like $52k. There was a $5k ADM. $1995 addon package you could not avoid. $899 dealer fee, plus TTL. Say 8% Tax. You're at $60kish before tax is applied.

No I did not I just saw u bashing the mustang like the mullet camaro is any better.

 

[VenomousDSG]

Only mustang id consider buying ever in the foreseeable future would be the GT350. No other model is worth anywhere near the prices they go for now. Crazy ass times we live in.

 

[The Beast]

Only mustang id consider buying ever in the foreseeable future would be the GT350. No other model is worth anywhere near the prices they go for now. Crazy ass times we live in.

Have you looked at gt350 prices? Lol

 

[ZXMustang]

Doesn’t the mustang have the same trans as the zl1? I mean I get there’s tuning differences but it’s still the same hardware…..

Yeah I think they were developed together by GM and Ford. The ZL1 has the high TQ version of it but im sure its similar to the Ford one. And yeah I'd be positive that the tuning of the trans is far different.

The GT only had like 20 miles on it in all fairness, and I know LTFTs need to settle in and average out along with adaptives for the trans. But something was off. Maybe it was having issues. Didnt feel like it was broke or anything, just very scatter brained.

Lugging when it shouldnt be, then dropping a handful of gears to what felt way too high of an RPM for pedal input.

We tried it in Sport and S+ and with the shifter in D and S. It hit hard under WOT but again (sorry JEFEE) it was so flat and blah power wise.

Tie the numb driving experience with the absolute shit interior, it was a huge LOL over their prices and ADMs and all that crap.