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Nothing else matters, thats the thing. Some of us won't by cars from a communist company that literally stole billions of dollars from us. Some of us also don't want some fake American Muscle car made by some metrosexual euro company. If I want a Euro car, I'd buy a damn Mercedes.
Lol. You've never seen the new ones then. My stripper Scat Pack has better interior than my Raptor. The Raptor is soft touch rubber shit everywhere. The Challenger has stitched leather wrapped on everything other than the dash. The suede/leather seats IMO are nicer than the all leather seats in the truck. They're definitely not the early model rubber shit everywhere, that's for sure.
Don't even get me started on my 12 CS' interior. Was even worse than the Raptor.
Try again gay boy.
Hmmmm, corporate welfare? Say it's not so.
The challenger IS a Mercedes.
Here is Royal Crimson. BARF!
Agreed about him waiting.
Chrysler needs to catch up to what? The pony car war? They don't even have an entry in that segment.
Too heavy for what? Handles poorly compared to vehicles not in its class maybe. Interior, nope....very wrong.
The challenger is the only modern muscle car. It makes no apology for being a big, heavy, comfortable, luxury (15+),touring car with lots of power in both na and power adder forms. Adequate brakes, stable chassis and suspension that inspire confidence on the road/track, awesome handling for its size, and a very comfortable ride. It doesn't try to be a pony car, but somehow the masses keep comparing them with pony cars. Maybe it's because I have never lost a stop light war with a mustang in my scat, a gt350 being among them. Just salty I suppose.
Dodge has acknowledged that the Challenger is too heavy and will lose significant weight when the next gen comes out. The Challenger is heavy not because it's a modern "Muscle Car" but due to cost savings, lack of resources due to financial turmoil/mergers, and using chassis/suspension components from an old Mercedes sedan.
The fact of the matter is that GM and Ford have better platforms and have developed a more refined product to compete at a global scale. Chrysler might do that in the next iteration, but for now they are using HP as a band aid.
Keep telling yourself that, you will begin to believe it. You always lament about not getting the better pony car.......because price.
If i want a better one than the one i have now itll be a GT350 if/when it becomes avaiable with a 10speed.
bang for the buck will always be a factor so is how much the aftermarket supports. again the ford aftermarket is fucking gigantic vs the camaro one.
obviously the camaro is a great car but i still think its over priced. at the time i purchased mine i couldnt find a loaded auto 6th gen SS they maybe able to be had for under 40k now.
Sometimes I wish I wasn't a Ford guy because I really like the direction the new Camaro has gone.
Its not over priced anymore. You can easily get a loaded 2SS auto with everything for well into the mid $30k's. The one I was looking at was $36k before taxes. It had auto, npp, mag ride and moonroof.
The red tags are still going strong, and now the dealers have the option to apply them to the cars they want. You just need to find a dealer that has a tag thats not applied, and see if they will apply it to the car you want.
Gomez you look handsome!
With the right accents, that could look good, better than everybody owning DIB cars
Sometimes I wish I wasn't a Ford guy because I really like the direction the new Camaro has gone.
The new Camaro is a home run in my book. I'd seriously consider a 1LE if I was in the market for something to replace my Mustang.