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[Vogz]

since i am only concerned about the z comparo being the cars are very similar:
For an underpowered 4 banger I think those numbers show exactly how great the car is. It is neck and neck with the 350z in every course, yes even the ring, 13 seconds is nothing over 12 miles of track, I personally don't like it for comparisons due to its length and complexity. It takes drivers decades to master that course. Thanks for posting some times in here.

As for your Z, I won't comment, I don't see bench racing getting us anywhere in this argument.

The problem is most of those are tight, VERY technical courses, which is where the S2000 SHOULD shine. Sure the ring is long and complex, but these times are achieved by pro drivers. 13 seconds is A LOT of time even on a 12 mile track. Break that down to your average 3 mile road course and that's over 3 seconds of advantage per lap.

Also found one more on Fastestlaps

2003 350Z @ VIR - 3:12.50
2007 S2000 Type S @ VIR - 3:15.00

That's an ass whopping and it would have been worse for the 2.0L S2000.

I wouldn't comment on my Z either, it's got different suspension, big brakes, and almost 300hp over stock. A stock S2000 wouldn't stand a chance on anything longer than an autocross.

 

[Vogz]

The 350z doesn't have to carry much more weight per horsepower compared to a 350 z, what's so impressive? Physics don't normally lie, unless we are talking about a GTR.

You mean S2000 doesn't have to carry as much weight..

 

[Turk]

Oops.

 

[Vogz]

I like how you ignored my other post....

 

[Vogz]

See my post right after this. I do believe the S2k is underpowered for today's performance cars, and for a few years back. Does that make it not a sports car? no. Does that take away from an award winning engine and an incredible chassis? no. Back when it was released in 2000 and nearing the cars final years it was still relevant and incredibly competitive in its segment.

A car doesn't need to have assloads of power or torque to be appreciated.

I don't think anyone said it wasn't a sports car. I also don't think anyone said it wasn't appreciated for what it was.

We just said it was slow.

 

[Turk]

I think Vogz is saying, it may be a sports car, just not a good one!

 

[10sec]

I like how you ignored my other post....

It's redundant, just like everything you and Jason continue to post. You guys act like we're saying the s2000 is better than every car in the world. It's fucking gay, has a tiny underpowered motor, and it's a convertible. :gives:

 

[Vogz]

It's redundant, just like everything you and Jason continue to post. You guys act like we're saying the s2000 is better than every car in the world. It's fucking gay, has a tiny underpowered motor, and it's a convertible. :gives:

You mean the post where I owned the shit out of your "it's probably faster than your cars around a road course" statement?

How is that redundant? Are you drunk or just stupid?

You obviously give a fuck or you won't be posting.

 

[10sec]

Bring even your 350z to a road course, bring money, sack up.

 

[ef_vtak]

You mean S2000 doesn't have to carry as much weight..

The z has a better power to weight ratio....i was surprised when i looked it up, stupid convertible top.

I don't think anyone said it wasn't a sports car. I also don't think anyone said it wasn't appreciated for what it was.

We just said it was slow.

thats not the feeling i was getting which is why i began arguing. i dont care about fast v slow, id much rather enjoy something well rounded.

fwiw i would love to see your 10 sec Z on a road course....that thing has to be a handful in the turns, props.

 

[10sec]

vogz swings from the z, will stand up for it until he dies. Posts up a bunch of bullshit links like all the other losers on the forum. Put up, or shut up.

 

[jason05gt]

Bring even your 350z to a road course, bring money, sack up.

His S4 would be more of a fair challenge....And that would still smoke a stock S2000.

The fanboyism in this one is strong.

 

[10sec]

then bring it, I want to see it in person. Bring your junkstang against my lude. Lets see that TQ power house on a road course.

 

[jason05gt]

then bring it, I want to see it in person. Bring your junkstang against my lude. Lets see that TQ power house on a road course.

You act like Mustangs and their ox cart suspensions can't handle. Typical Honda noob that thinks dumbestics only go in a straight line.

 

[Turk]

I'll bring my S4

 

[Vogz]

The z has a better power to weight ratio....i was surprised when i looked it up, stupid convertible top.



thats not the feeling i was getting which is why i began arguing. i dont care about fast v slow, id much rather enjoy something well rounded.

fwiw i would love to see your 10 sec Z on a road course....that thing has to be a handful in the turns, props.

The Z hasn't been to a road course it a long time, but a few suspension tweaks and it would be good to go. It's all about throttle modulation.

 

[ef_vtak]

You act like Mustangs and their ox cart suspensions can't handle. Typical Honda noob that thinks dumbestics only go in a straight line.

Ive always been surprised the engineers bothered to include steering wheels in american cars.

 

[Vogz]

Bring even your 350z to a road course, bring money, sack up.

Where's your stock S2000?

 

[jason05gt]

STREET GT RWD Autobahn South Track Record:

Aaron Leichty – Injected Performance Honda S2000 – 1:39.746 – Redline Time Attack, June 21, 2009


AIX Track Record

Autobahn (South) Chris Griswold 1:31.167 -Fox body Mustang too

My friend's Formula Continental who holds the track record (for FC) ran 1:26.XX as reference

 

[jason05gt]

Ive always been surprised the engineers bothered to include steering wheels in american cars.

Until a decade or so ago, that's the truth.

 

[Vogz]

vogz swings from the z, will stand up for it until he dies. Posts up a bunch of bullshit links like all the other losers on the forum. Put up, or shut up.

At least we post actual information instead of just talking out of our asses.

You're just angry because you couldn't afford to own an Evo and had to sell it. It's ok, someday you'll make manager at McDonald's and you can buy a used S2000.

 

[ef_vtak]

Until a decade or so ago, that's the truth.

Lets go back to those days, it was much easier to defend Honda then lol.

 

[Fish]

Lets go back to those days, it was much easier to defend Honda then lol.

Which is how this bitchfest all started. Honda has fallen under the curve. Then you and xsack came in going to honda.

 

[ef_vtak]

I'm guessing you didn't read much of this thread. I was debating about the S2k being a dog comments, I have stated numerous times that Honda is no longer leading the pack. Please don't attempt to include me in someone elses moronic arguments. Thanks.

 

[Fish]

Someone believing the S2K being a dog is relative. To them, maybe. To some, no. You might as well debate on what flavor ice cream tastes the best.