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Old 02-17-2018, 04:08 PM   #1
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Default Tesla isn't the quickest sedan anymore...

The new m5 is the quickest sedan Car and Driver has ever tested.

"... the M5 pounds forward. In 2.8 seconds youíre at 60 mph and in 10.9 youíre whisked through the quarter-mile at 129 mph."



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Love affairs donít always last. After we fell hard for the naturally aspirated V-8Ė and V-10Ėpowered versions of*the BMW M5, a twin-turbo V-8 M5 arrived for 2013 and left us a little cold. Sure, it had 560 horsepower, 502 lb-ft of torque, and a body by Atlas, but something that was core to our long-held attraction was lost. Even an available manual transmission couldnít bridge the emotional gap. While the carís performance left us in awe, somehow BMW forgot to make it fun. Weíd grown apart.

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Astounding acceleration, rediscovered involvement that doesnít negatively affect refinement and luxury.

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Stiff ride in Sport mode, fake engine soundtrack remains, the stick shift is dead.

The divide grew when we heard rumors that the new M5 would have all-wheel drive, no manual option, and a conventional automatic transmission. Despite adding all-wheel drive, BMW claims the new model is 20 pounds lighter than its predecessor, and even though power wasnít really ever a problem, we were delighted to learn that, thanks to larger turbos and more boost, the new M5ís twin-turbocharged 4.4-liter V-8 would have 600 horsepower and 553 lb-ft of torque. Then we drove first a prototype and then*a production version in Europe last year, and most of those fears were put to rest. Maybe weíre ready to love again?

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We made a date with the first 2018 M5 available in the United States and took it straight to our test facility. That torque-converter automatic that weíd worried might take the eagerness out of BMWís supersedan comes with a simple launch-control function that works with the all-wheel-drive system to help the new M5 turn some ridiculous times. A perfect launch is as easy as holding the brake and the accelerator while stopped. When fluid temperatures are right, the computer allows the engine to rev to nearly 3000 rpm, and the rear tires start spinning as if the M5 were rear-wheel drive. Release the brakes, the front wheels kick in, and the M5 pounds forward. In 2.8 seconds youíre at 60 mph and in 10.9 youíre whisked through the quarter-mile at 129 mph.

That makes the new M5 the quickest sedan weíve ever tested, tying*a Tesla Model S P90D*to 60 mph but pulling ahead by 100 mph and in the quarter-mile. Turbo lag is absent, and the engine delivers instantaneous big whacks of power similar to a massive naturally aspirated engine. Thereís no slush in the gearbox, either; the torque converter locks up almost as soon as you get rolling.

After a couple of runs, the launch-control system dialed back the launch rpm to 2500 rpm, which isnít enough to start the rear tires spinning. Launching without that rear-wheel spin adds a couple of tenths to the zero-to-60-mph time. Our test car supposedly arrived with the lower, 155-mph governor, but it didnít stop the party until weíd hit a verified 163 mph. (A $2500 M Driverís package brings a 189-mph limiter.)

BMW makes it possible to disable the all-wheel-drive system and switch the M5 into rear-drive mode. Itís a trick that mimics*the Mercedes-AMG E63 Sís Drift mode. We thought it would be interesting to see how much all-wheel-drive traction benefits acceleration, so we tested the M5 in rear-drive mode, too. When two tires instead of four face off against 553 lb-ft of torque, it takes 3.6 seconds to hit 60 and 11.6 seconds for the quarter-mile, and itís a far bigger challenge to get the launch right and dance at the limits of tire adhesion.

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While the numbers are shocking, the new M5 has more going for it than numbers. Thereís a closer connection with the driver in this M5, one that isnít as overtly filtered through silicon chips and electronics. Itís more amusing and less robotic than its predecessor. Unlike so many BMWs of late, the steering is lively and has some actual feedback. At the track, the M5 put up 0.98 g on the skidpad, and the front tires chatter and protest as they try to fight off understeer. Itís a different story on the road, where the chassis exhibits balanced, lively, and secure handling that gives the impression that the M5 is smaller than it is. Thereís joy again in hustling the M5. Youíre in the gameóand not just a spectator to a 21st-century display of technology.

Even with the roughly 150-pound penalty of all-wheel drive, the new M5 weighs in at 4288 poundsówhich sounds like a lot, but thatís 110 pounds lighter than*the most recent previous-gen M5 we tested(which had a manual) and 299 less than the E63 S. In addition to a carbon-fiber roof panel and a lithium-ion battery, the new 5-series platform uses more weight-saving aluminum than before. Fifty-one of those saved pounds are from the optional $8500 carbon-ceramic brakes, which along with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires stopped the M5 from 70 mph in a tidy 147 feet.

Fortunately, the diet hasnít eroded any of the M5ís ability to act like a luxury car when youíre not working the Michelins hard. Left in Comfort mode, the electronically adjustable dampers allow the M5 to ride as smoothly as a regular 5-series. Two stiffer modes are selectable, but they are better left to canyon carving or a racetrack.

Driver comfort is a clear priority. The leather-upholstered seat is supple and supportive and hugs you back when you lean in. Upright windows with large expanses of glass give the cabin an airiness missing from the competition. Itís a nice place to sit and enjoy driving. Calmness begets calmness. Road and tire noise are hushed and wind rush doesnít appear until the M5 reaches triple-digit speeds. At 70 mph the sound-level meter registers a low 66 decibels, and full-throttle acceleration rises to only 74 decibels. Switch to Sport mode and the audio system plays an enhanced version of the engineís soundtrack that peaks at 80 decibels under hard acceleration. Any more would be annoying and would disturb the occupants of the M5ís luxurious cabin.

In spite of its all-wheel drive and automatic transmission, the M5 is a return to form. For the first time in a long time, weíre lusting after a new M5. It might not be the pure and competition-bred sedan of its youth, but the new iteration has stopped placing technology over tactility and numbers over enjoyment. The whole car is now better at integrating its tech and drawing the driver in. The performance data is more impressive than before, but the car is more than just something that generates an eye-popping test sheet. Itís better to drive than its predecessor, which is something we havenít been able to say about an M5 since 2000.

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Quickest sedan they ever tested and the P90D was all they tested.

Clickbait title is clickbait.

P100D still does the 1/4 in 10.7 and 0-60 in 2.3 seconds. The king is still the king.
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Straight line stuff, nice! A good excuse for BMW owners who haven’t found their turn signals.
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I was just about to say uh........ 2.8 is far from the fastest

For some reason itís saying the forum has disabled pictures but motor trend said 2.23 seconds to 60
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Tesla isn't the quickest sedan anymore...
Except it is. This is just the fastest sedan Car and Driver has tested, not the fastest sedan. The P100D still bests the M5 to 60mph by half a second which isn't nothing. 2.3 seconds for the P100D, 2.8 for the M5. M5 rocks a 10.9 and the P100D knocks out the quarter mile in 10.7 seconds.

So the only story here is that Car and Driver needs to test more current cars. Also this is a clickbait title begging me troll.
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I was just about to say uh........ 2.8 is far from the fastest

For some reason itís saying the forum has disabled pictures but motor trend said 2.23 seconds to 60
I think that's what they tested it at. Tesla's official figure is 2.3 though. Either way, it's fast as snot. I'd like to congratulate BMW on matching the performance of an electric car made in 2015. You are truly the champions.
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And don't anybody get me wrong. I love this car. I just resent the fact that BMW can't make these cars last for any appreciable amount of time without self-destructing. It used to be that you could justify the cost of ownership and reliability issues because there was nothing else comparable that was as fast. It was the cost of owning a car with that kind of potential. But technology has made it so you no longer have to compromise so even as a huge BMW fan boy, I don't understand why people do.
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Clickbait title is clickbait.
guilty as charged. I intended to get the Tesla guys riled up.


Now let's put them both on a road course.
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I mean mission accomplished. Clearly I was triggered. I had to go sit in my safe space for a few minutes.
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I just died in PUBG typing in this thread. Damn you clickbait!!!
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So much triggered lolololll

Id take the m5 weeks before the tesla...
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I think that's what they tested it at. Tesla's official figure is 2.3 though. Either way, it's fast as snot. I'd like to congratulate BMW on matching the performance of an electric car made in 2015. You are truly the champions.


Except the BMW will annihilate the Tesla on a road course and from a roll. The only thing the P100 has on this M5 is 0-60 due to the torque of the electric motors.
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And if weíre Saturday night trolling. When is Tesla going to build a nicer interior than a E39 5 series?
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Default Tesla isn't the quickest sedan anymore...

Thereís more than just going fast in a straight line. Would take the BMW any day of the week and their new interiors are pretty great.

https://www.caranddriver.com/photo-g...d-test-gallery
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Iíd rather not sit in the shop and spend thousands after 40k miles.

Thatís why you can pick up most German cars used for pennies vs new prices because no one keeps them.
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Iíd rather not sit in the shop and spend thousands after 40k miles.

Thatís why you can pick up most German cars used for pennies vs new prices because no one keeps them.


I know, I used to have a BMW lol.


Though not sure where youíre getting 40k? All premium brands are 4/50 for the initial warranty.
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