Question about speed limit
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I have a question regarding speed limits. When you are in a 35mph zone, say through west Chicago going south on 59....
When do you speed up? Or in other words, when does the new speed limit apply?
-When you see the 45mph speed limit sign?
-When you get to the 45mph speed limit sign?
FWIW, I'm just curious, I didn't get busted or anything. I *think* this has been discussed on TCG before, in that case, my bad.
When do you speed up? Or in other words, when does the new speed limit apply?
-When you see the 45mph speed limit sign?
-When you get to the 45mph speed limit sign?
FWIW, I'm just curious, I didn't get busted or anything. I *think* this has been discussed on TCG before, in that case, my bad.
in 1995 they turned over speed limit regulations to the states, and most states increased it to 65.
don't really think modern car performance numbers on any metric would make a compelling case.
radioguy is right. teach people how to fucking drive first, then raise it. i just got back from germany a few months ago. this was our route.
do you know how many left lane campers there were? FUCKING ZERO. IT WAS BLISS
radioguy is right. teach people how to fucking drive first, then raise it. i just got back from germany a few months ago. this was our route.
do you know how many left lane campers there were? FUCKING ZERO. IT WAS BLISS
radioguy6 - I dont think teaching people would work either.
Some people just dont care, we teach people all we can, but people do what they want. I mean im pretty sure we everyone here was thought to respect the speed limit, and im sure a lot of you, if not all dont.
We can teach people that they should drive 85mph on a 85mph highway, but if they want to drive 53mph they will, and aslong that is not under the minimum speed limit there is nothing we can do about it.
sickmint79 - And how come you dont think number/performance will make a case?
If they deemed safe for a 1970 Caddilac to drive down the road at 65mph when its stopping distance was 150ft (pulling a number out of my ass here), why isnt safe for a 2012 Caddilac to drive 85mph if it could stop in the same 150ft (again just throwing a number out there).
Besides that there is more, like impact received by passengers back in the day and today with the airbags.
Or even crash tests, i mean, we all saw the VW Bus crash test, im pretty sure any minivan today would do better than that, even at speed a little higher.
I think the speed limit should be somewhere around 80mph. Either that, or have different lanes on the highway with different speed limits.
Outlaw - And would be awesome to read your speech on it, probably would be able to use a lot of it because we have to submit it to safe assignment.
Some people just dont care, we teach people all we can, but people do what they want. I mean im pretty sure we everyone here was thought to respect the speed limit, and im sure a lot of you, if not all dont.
We can teach people that they should drive 85mph on a 85mph highway, but if they want to drive 53mph they will, and aslong that is not under the minimum speed limit there is nothing we can do about it.
sickmint79 - And how come you dont think number/performance will make a case?
If they deemed safe for a 1970 Caddilac to drive down the road at 65mph when its stopping distance was 150ft (pulling a number out of my ass here), why isnt safe for a 2012 Caddilac to drive 85mph if it could stop in the same 150ft (again just throwing a number out there).
Besides that there is more, like impact received by passengers back in the day and today with the airbags.
Or even crash tests, i mean, we all saw the VW Bus crash test, im pretty sure any minivan today would do better than that, even at speed a little higher.
I think the speed limit should be somewhere around 80mph. Either that, or have different lanes on the highway with different speed limits.
Outlaw - And would be awesome to read your speech on it, probably would be able to use a lot of it because we have to submit it to safe assignment.
Its not really about performance and safety. Yes modern cars perform better and are safer. But most cars traveling 85 MPH will consume alot more gas than traveling at 55 or 65. Enviormentalists, the EPA, etc. will always fight against it. Thats why the 55 MPH national limit set in 1973. Considering what the EPA wants for future MPGs, its never going to happen. While I agree they should change the speed limits, its just not going to happen everywhere.
Yeah, i understand, but did you look at the link posted?
The amount of gas saved by lowering the speed limit was estimated at 1%.
Meaning your econo car is now making 40 mpg instead of 40.4 mpg.
Besides, higher speed limits already are in place in most of the country.
I mean, Im dont think my speech is going to change anything, I just want my grades haha, but since we are debating already, why not.
The amount of gas saved by lowering the speed limit was estimated at 1%.
Meaning your econo car is now making 40 mpg instead of 40.4 mpg.
Besides, higher speed limits already are in place in most of the country.
I mean, Im dont think my speech is going to change anything, I just want my grades haha, but since we are debating already, why not.
this is simply what multiple lanes are for. it's not an 85 mph highway it's a max 85 mph highway.
people do not keep their cars in tip-top shape and they are driving old ones as well. i don't know what the stats are about accidents (expecting you do/should) but advances in technology can probably be canceled out by... advances in technology. hey we've got better tires and airbags! but a lot more texters...
i would not approach the proposal by saying "cars are better" here. i would approach it with:
1. people are already going this speed - not sure if you could source that, for shits i was going to post the ohare commute i did sunday so i could look at it in 20 years - everyone is speeding on a 4 lane 94. including the cop in the vid.
2. safety stats from germany vs. here - i haven't actually looked at them so i'm not sure how compelling this case is. i think germany (and germans) are more strict about their cars being in shape too, btw. for much roads germany basically has 60 mph, 75, or no max defined. it works well. but that's also because they completely respect lane usage. i would educate americans by ticketing the fuck all out of anyone being a retard in the left lane.
this is still the education thing, in theory they effectively do - if you are holding up traffic you should move a lane to the right, if you are passing you should be doing it on the left (most states i believe have a law saying it's illegal to pass on the right - which is never enforced). the problem is all those gdamn fucking idiot american drivers! i'm too lazy but i wanted to start posting plates and stupid shit people did with my dashcam.
Sickmint is right, comparing say Illinois to Germany is a completely ridiculous notion. We do not have state mandated inspection of automobiles, so anyone can basically tax, title, and license basically anything as long as it has DOT tires, lights, seatbelts, and bumpers. There is no investigation to the abilities and safety of those vehicles. Someone riding around on a balljoint ready to go is fairly unsafe, but most people will let it just break. Whereas in areas with inspections, you are alerted to the unsafe condition of your vehicle, and I am not sure about the laws or regulations, but if it is not up to safety standards it is not licensed to go on the road. Germany, especially, has stricter laws and fines for lane violations and distracted driving as opposed to here. Plus their drivers go through a much more rigorous driving school than US drivers. Passing the driving test here is a joke.
Well, about people already driving above the speed limit, i did a questionarie with the class, and yes 80% of the already do drive faster than the posted limit.
I know the comparison is not fair, but it just goes to show that it is possible to have higher speed limits, or no speed limits without a lot more accidents.
I can make comparison to other states where the limit is 75 or 80, in which presumably the cars and roads are in conditions comparable to ours.
Cars were not in tip top shape back in the day either.
The whole texting is another subject, yes it happens, but for the purpose of this speech i wont account for it, because it is illegal already.
I know the comparison is not fair, but it just goes to show that it is possible to have higher speed limits, or no speed limits without a lot more accidents.
I can make comparison to other states where the limit is 75 or 80, in which presumably the cars and roads are in conditions comparable to ours.
Cars were not in tip top shape back in the day either.
The whole texting is another subject, yes it happens, but for the purpose of this speech i wont account for it, because it is illegal already.
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