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Old 11-07-2018, 09:38 AM   #26
 
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i dont think so

no "real" offroad additions to those.
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power wagon has a dual alternator option with 380 amps of output
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I'd have to go Raptor if money was no object. The Raptor is a perfect blend of it all in my opinion.

The problem is they are $69k IF you can get a dealer to agree to not mark them up (which is possible but difficult), but then, if you're financing, you're fucked. Loaded up F-150 non-Raptor you can get 0% for 60-72 months. Raptor does not qualify for any kind of nice financing either, so you end up paying interest on your monster purchase. Have to pay cash IMO.

Tough to drop $70k cash!
Not getting 0% is one thing, but on top of that, you're paying AT LEAST msrp on an F150 Raptor when all other F150's are available for 10k off msrp easily.
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Kinda...lol
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Oh yea, I'll take the Raptor if money is no consideration.
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Kinda...lol


i mean, in that case buying a brand new vehicle at all is dumber than paying interest on one i'd wager.
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@Bru, now say price is consideration... what you think?
ZR2. Gas, not diesel, though.
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Not getting 0% is one thing, but on top of that, you're paying AT LEAST msrp on an F150 Raptor when all other F150's are available for 10k off msrp easily.
Thats the killer. I priced out a Raptor when I bought my Lariat two month's ago. Dealer was willing to give me the Raptor at sticker...which was only $4k more sticker price than my Lariat.

The difference out the door was insane after x-plan (no x-plan discount on Raptor), rebates, and 0% financing. I'd end up paying over $20k more in the long run for the Raptor...couldn't bring myself to do it. If I was rich I'd say fuck it and do it for sure.
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ZR2. Gas, not diesel, though.
This makes me feel damn good about my Z71 purchase even though not the same. LOL
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ZR2. Gas, not diesel, though.
I think this is what I'd do all things considered.
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Spending 60k on a half ton 1500 silverado/f150/ram is silly to me in itself.

especially for what 3/4 ton diesel trucks can be had at that price.
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i dont think so

no "real" offroad additions to those.
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Thats the killer. I priced out a Raptor when I bought my Lariat two month's ago. Dealer was willing to give me the Raptor at sticker...which was only $4k more sticker price than my Lariat.

The difference out the door was insane after x-plan (no x-plan discount on Raptor), rebates, and 0% financing. I'd end up paying over $20k more in the long run for the Raptor...couldn't bring myself to do it. If I was rich I'd say fuck it and do it for sure.
raptors going to be worth at LEAST 20k more when you go to get rid of it though.
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Spending 60k on a half ton 1500 silverado/f150/ram is silly to me in itself.

especially for what 3/4 ton diesel trucks can be had at that price.
Power Wagon needs a diesel option
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i mean, what's it got? knobby tires and some thin skid plates?

that lines up more with the z71's, fx4's, etc.
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i dont think so

no "real" offroad additions to those.
Eh, I wouldn't say that. Air suspension raises an additional 2" over the base Rams, standard LSD, Open country tires, front bumper gives a better approach angle. They are probably giving left over 2018's away.
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Eh, I wouldn't say that. Air suspension raises an additional 2" over the base Rams, standard LSD, Open country tires, front bumper gives a better approach angle. They are probably giving left over 2018's away.
i mean... z71/fx4 packages do all of that as well.

the things i posted actually have some offroad options/accreditation...
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Spending 60k on a half ton 1500 silverado/f150/ram is silly to me in itself.

especially for what 3/4 ton diesel trucks can be had at that price.
Same thing though...I asked about a loaded up F250 Diesel (because why the hell not) and its a shit load more expensive to get the same options. Comes down to if you want all the luxury/technology options.
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Same thing though...I asked about a loaded up F250 Diesel (because why the hell not) and its a shit load more expensive to get the same options. Comes down to if you want all the luxury/technology options.
it's really not.
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saying this from the get go
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and the diesel f250 will actually be worth a good chunk in 6 years 100k miles.
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i mean... z71/fx4 packages do all of that as well.

the things i posted actually have some offroad options/accreditation...
It's between a Z71 and ZR2 IMO. I would still say Power Wagon all day over the Rebel though. Hopefully the 5th gen PW's get the rumors 8 speed HD trans. That will be my next truck for sure.
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not hardly dude, it's MILES from the zr2.
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and the diesel f250 will actually be worth a good chunk in 6 years 100k miles.
Was $20k difference for me 2 months ago. Had to go to a loaded F250 Platinum. Sticker price after x-plan was ~$15k more, and rebates were about half of what they were on the F150.

Depreciation would def be a factor for some. I'm handing mine to my daughter when she starts driving in 6 years...so mine will be in the family for the long haul.
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wasn't for me.

powerstroke f250 with 360 cameras/front and rear heated seats/cooled front/cruise/two tone paint... mid 60k
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