Uh-oh Tesla

[Yaj Yak]

That and the quick recharge ability similar to throwing $20 of gas in, isn't there yet.

Range Anxiety is long gone with Tesla, but I still can't hit an electric station that is on every corner and have 3/4 (or more) of a battery charge (from a 1/4 charge for example) in 5 minutes time yet.

I don't think I'd say long gone... where my wife is from there isn't a supercharger nearby at all. we go there 6-8 times per year. I've shown in other threads where it'd take me FOREVER to get down there for one, and two, i'd have to be concerned with not being able to charge/finding a charger. sure some nissan dealer within 30 miles of her hometown has a J1772 charger, but i'm not going to dick around waiting 7 hours to "refill"

 

[CMNTMXR57]

True. I was going to mention Last's post about his road trip he did, which was identical to mine in the Suburban last May and how much longer it took because of chargers.

 

[EmersonHart13]

GOOD POINTS Jason. I hadn't really thought about it that way. Basically they don't want to sell any 35k model 3s? Just a price point to get people in the door and then upgrade them...?

 

[MikeyLikesIt]

where my wife is from there isn't a supercharger nearby at all. we go there 6-8 times per year.

Where's that at?

 

[Stink Star]

I mean Ferrari could build cheap cars too if they stripped the car of features. The $35K Model 3 has been stripped of a lot of basic luxury content. That's fine for people that want a basic car, but from my point of view Tesla is making an already bottom of the class interior cheaper.

Standard Interior Includes:

Manual seat and steering adjustment
Cloth seats and base trim
Basic audio
Standard maps and navigation
Center console with storage and 4 USB ports

You’re forgetting for $2000 more you get heated vegan leather and upgraded audio/infotainment as well as more range. That’s the sweet spot for budget conscious people.


I think if I were to buy one today I would realistically buy the Dual motor long range. Of course I want the performance, but I don’t know if I can justify $10,000 more for it.

 

[MikeyLikesIt]

I think if I were to buy one today I would realistically buy the Dual motor long range. Of course I want the performance

I want the performance as well. But with one kid driving and another driving soon, I don't want them driving something as fast as a Porsche 911.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Where's that at?

Middle of nothing Kentucky/Almost Tennessee

 

[jason05gt]

You’re forgetting for $2000 more you get heated vegan leather and upgraded audio/infotainment as well as more range. That’s the sweet spot for budget conscious people.


I think if I were to buy one today I would realistically buy the Dual motor long range. Of course I want the performance, but I don’t know if I can justify $10,000 more for it.

The dual motor long range interests me as well. I am hoping that at some point here Tesla updates the front bumper and interior.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I mean at dual motor long range price though- aren't you into solid used S territory ?



It's not like mileage is supposed to matter on these things anyways, right?

 

[Gone_2022]

Correct. Mileage really is not much of an issue. Getting the features you want on a used one can be challenging. Like I said before I don’t really agree with how Tesla does their upgrades and pricing. They do things mid year, mid week, mid production and don’t say anything.

So 2 2016 models could be vastly different. One may have the face lift, one may not, one may have a better Interior when they made the switch to the better premium seats, the other may not. Etc etc.

While on paper both of those cars have the premium package and you may think are identical. But they are not.

It is a downfall for them in my opinion and I do not agree with it.

 

[Gone_2022]

A perfect example of the above is the new MCU upgrade. Tesla quietly introduced a better computer quite literally mid week. I received the new computer, while people who’s cars went into production 2 weeks before me did not. It caused a huge uproar on the Tesla forums. Same cars, same years, same everything. One has the computer from the 2012 cars and mine has the brand new 2018 version.

Just doesn’t make sense.

 

[EmersonHart13]

If that was me and they had that 7 day guarantee I'd return my car.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I mean at dual motor long range price though- aren't you into solid used S territory ?



It's not like mileage is supposed to matter on these things anyways, right?

Correct. Mileage really is not much of an issue. Getting the features you want on a used one can be challenging. Like I said before I don’t really agree with how Tesla does their upgrades and pricing. They do things mid year, mid week, mid production and don’t say anything.

So 2 2016 models could be vastly different. One may have the face lift, one may not, one may have a better Interior when they made the switch to the better premium seats, the other may not. Etc etc.

While on paper both of those cars have the premium package and you may think are identical. But they are not.

It is a downfall for them in my opinion and I do not agree with it.

I don't know tesla like all ya'll do but... for example, would this be a solid comparison to a new awd model 3 with similar range/autopilot, etc?



I mean, purely face value- at the same money, you're getting a MUCH better looking car, larger car, a better/similar warranty, and whatever else you can fill me in on.

 

[EmersonHart13]

Dude that's super close to what my brother bought. Except his is black on black.

I'd take an S over a 3 all day everyday and twice today.

#freesupercharging

 

[Yaj Yak]

right i mean, if you can get past the "it's not a new car" thing, i think it's a much better buy.

 

[Gone_2022]

Yea I would say that’s a good value when comparing the 2. Depends what’s been replaced on this one. The earlier models struggled with random issues due to cheaper parts like MikeK eluded to in another thread. The new models are far better in terms of build quality.

With that being said Tesla was very good about replacing these know issues on cars. So if you came in for 1 door handle not working, a lot of times they would change out all 4.

But on paper yea good deal, and I was a fan of the tan interiors

 

[EmersonHart13]

My brothers pre owned tesla was pretty minty and so far he had one issue and they fixed it right away.

Something infotainment and they did a full swap. Worst part for him was a it took a few days to get it.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Yea I would say that’s a good value when comparing the 2. Depends what’s been replaced on this one. The earlier models struggled with random issues due to cheaper parts like MikeK eluded to in another thread. The new models are far better in terms of build quality.

With that being said Tesla was very good about replacing these know issues on cars. So if you came in for 1 door handle not working, a lot of times they would change out all 4.

But on paper yea good deal, and I was a fan of the tan interiors

I mean, it's a 15, it's not that early of a model right?

 

[EmersonHart13]

Correct, 15s are pretty good. I think Mike meant first couple years.

I think he had a first year car?

 

[Gone_2022]

I mean, it's a 15, it's not that early of a model right?

It’s not super early no, but it’s only vin #85k. Mine is 245k. This one still has the first style seats though. So its early enough

But the 85kw batteries were fantastic. People loved them and they had very little degradation

 

[Stink Star]

I don't know tesla like all ya'll do but... for example, would this be a solid comparison to a new awd model 3 with similar range/autopilot, etc?



I mean, purely face value- at the same money, you're getting a MUCH better looking car, larger car, a better/similar warranty, and whatever else you can fill me in on.

You are getting 40 miles less range not to mention the older slower infotainment computer. Otherwise that’s a pretty good deal.

 

[guspech750]

Soooooooooooo where does one go to look at, sit in, drive nowadays?

http://thedrive.com/news/26701/tesla-moving-to-online-only-sales-closing-showrooms-to-cut-costs

So Tesla had a change of heart. Probably had a heart attack after seeing how much they would owe landlords of rented spaces.


http://www.thedrive.com/news/26857/tesla-still-owes-1-6-billion-in-leases-for-closing-stores-report

http://www.thedrive.com/news/26881/...-to-close-stores-will-increase-prices-instead

 

[Stink Star]

As an investor I must say- what the fuck is the board doing? Lowering vehicle prices and closing “dealerships” actually made sense.... I’m thinking them saying they are keeping them open is nothing but bowing to the critics saying “Tesla is closing, Tesla is doomed”. But raising the vehicle prices? I mean they will still be lower than they initially were but goddamn, it’s like a circus in that board room

 

[sickmint79]

yikes that is a pretty schizo board room, you woulda figured this had all been ironed out.

looks like 35k one still stays symbolically at 35k, i wonder if they are actually making money on it or if it is a loss leader and they are just hoping to upsell you once you're in the fold.

 

[Stink Star]

Well Tesla stock went up $6.78 a share today so fuck me, who knows what people are thinking when they trade stock