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Already posted a thread for that build. ^^^^^^^


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You are too cool for school...

NOT stock engine on that 7 sec car obviously. full chassis and power glide.

Shhhh it wasnt built in a garage with mere hand tools.....

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No one claimed it was a stock engine. You dimwit.

He has the tools, knowledge, and experience to do whatever he wants. He has been racing, setting records, and building cars for himself and customers for decades. So ya, Bart is WAY more capable than you. But then again, so is a new technician at a Jiffy Lube.
 

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This is a boss 302. Didn't these have forged pistons stock?

The 2012-13 Boss and 2015 GT motor use a forged powdered rod and piston. Not a real strong forged piston like you would use in a reliable, big hp, build.

I would guess the pistons they used for this engine were designed to be very light, compact, and have low friction with goals of high rpm and big n/a power.
 

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420-435 crank HP stock depending on the year.

400-410 with cold air kit, cat deletes and tune

435-445 with Cobra Jet Intake and mono blade throttle body.

470-480 with Comp Cams & full length headers.

Add E85 and you can add 5-10 hp to those numbers.

You see some dyno higher and some lower. But typically those big hp number cars seem to never make it to the track or run well when they do. So take dyno numbers with a grain of salt, as I am sure you do, John.



That being said, I have heard Rich Groh Racing making a lot of power with these motors. He has had some really good luck with porting these heads and testing different cams. These heads flow just shy of 300 cfm stock. I know a few years ago RGR stage 3 heads were just over 340 cfm. And who knows what he has come up with since then. When you have a motor capable of flowing so well I guess you can make some big power. Just imagine what a RGR 320+ cube, high compression, race motor could make.

JPC is also very well know for getting the most out of a combo. This car could have a lightweight flywheel & clutch assembly, aluminum driveshaft, and so on. And revised driveline angles that help get more power to the tire. That is why they have been record-setters in many classes. Including Coyote Stock.
 

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The stock 2011-14 GT heads flowed more than the Ford Nascar D3 heads until like .450 or .500 lift. That is impressive. The ported heads obviously do better.

Stock Heads
Lift intake ex
.100 99 72.2
.200 180.2 147.8
.300 243.5 180
.400 280.0 189.7
.500 289.4 201.4
.600 298.4 202.1

RGR Stage 3 Ported & bigger valves
.100 102 88
.200 205 160
.300 271 205
.400 305 221
.500 327 232
.600 339 243
.650 342 249
 

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My 2011, close to full weight, less CFM GT heads, smaller cams, CJ intake & mono blade TB went 11.2. Drew in his 2012 GT went 11.00 with less weight. I have seen guys go 10's on forums. But no one local.

The 2015+ is better than the 2012-13 Boss motor. So it can make some good power. Sadly Ford saw it fit to add weight to the new chassis. :picard:
 

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Interesting. JPC tuning a 332ci coyote, RGR engine with a 94mm promod turbo. Probably through a power glide.

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