Tesla Killer - Audi E-Tron
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What I don't get is why. Panasonic supplies Tesla with the cells of the battery, so it would seem easy for a competitor to simply partner with Panasonic for the cell technology. I couldn't get an answer in a quick Google search, but it looks like the Tesla proprietary part of the agreement is the manufacturing and packaging. It looks like Toyota recently did a partnership with Panasonic.
Also their battery tech is not hard to really find. Do a quick search on Tesla motor club or what not and you can find what type of cells the S and X and 3 run. Differences, tweeks etc. diagrams of the cooling system have been posted for people who are curious.
So if you were a large company I would expect you would be able to find this information out better than low level joe blow like me.
So if you were a large company I would expect you would be able to find this information out better than low level joe blow like me.
i think it has to do with the actual arrangement and heat management or something like that, and logic to control the battery.
dunno if you saw the last tesla numbers but they were disappointing the market in a big way iirc. i think declines in 3/x/s domestically? with the real pain being the decline of x/s where the real profit is.
Looks strong to me when you look at battery only sales. I thought historically, Jan Feb sales are normally low.
https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/
https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/
The reason Tesla didn’t meet expectations is because there were something like 10,600 cars on boats going to China and Europe. Had those cars been delivered they would have made their sales targets. They’ve even gone so far as to say those 10,600 cars will just get tacked onto quarter 2 so the numbers will look better then. Also that 1.x billion bond payment brought down their profits dramatically. Either way I don’t think there is a softening of the market. The 35k car is just now ramping up so I don’t think domestic sales will be an issue. As far as X/S is concerned there were rumors flying around about a refresh and a new rumor about switching to permanent magnet motors increasing the range dramatically so people are holding off, much like Apple doesn’t sell a bunch of iPhones in August right before they refresh to the new model
I was cracking up with this one.
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Something else about that cuts right to my core....
Audi's insistence on abbreviating everything as if they're still using a single color dot matrix display from 1998. My Q5 has a nice color display in the instrument cluster and still every single message is abbreviated and abbreviated in a way that's not obvious. They also spell tire "tyre" and put an exclamation point at the end of every message. "Low Oil! Vehicle ok to drive"
I'm going to extrapolate a big picture idea from this tiny little story but it's also the benefit to Tesla not having the benefit (curse) of being a legacy automaker. That message and the bullshit "mi" abbreviation is a carryover from years of doing things one way. It's worked this long and so they just keep on keeping on. It's the reason that every single electric car (that I'm aware of) still has an ignition switch. It's the way they've always done it. Why would you do it any other way? With a Tesla you get in and the moment the car senses an ass in the driver's seat and a key present the car is on and ready to be driven. When you get out you literally get out and walk away. You just put it in park and leave. You don't tap the door handle to lock it. It knows when you've walked away and locks itself. It's a silly little detail but one of many small perks of having a fresh set of eyes look over every aspect of what makes a car a car. It's the Apple iPhone approach to cars. For years everyone approached the problem one way and then Apple came and showed everyone that they were all chasing the wrong solution. Tesla is in the same boat only Tesla has the benefit of a decade head start and an industry that took a better part of a decade to figure out that this is a serious market. Apple's competitors figured that out in months.
It will be interesting to see how the industry adapts.
Audi's insistence on abbreviating everything as if they're still using a single color dot matrix display from 1998. My Q5 has a nice color display in the instrument cluster and still every single message is abbreviated and abbreviated in a way that's not obvious. They also spell tire "tyre" and put an exclamation point at the end of every message. "Low Oil! Vehicle ok to drive"
I'm going to extrapolate a big picture idea from this tiny little story but it's also the benefit to Tesla not having the benefit (curse) of being a legacy automaker. That message and the bullshit "mi" abbreviation is a carryover from years of doing things one way. It's worked this long and so they just keep on keeping on. It's the reason that every single electric car (that I'm aware of) still has an ignition switch. It's the way they've always done it. Why would you do it any other way? With a Tesla you get in and the moment the car senses an ass in the driver's seat and a key present the car is on and ready to be driven. When you get out you literally get out and walk away. You just put it in park and leave. You don't tap the door handle to lock it. It knows when you've walked away and locks itself. It's a silly little detail but one of many small perks of having a fresh set of eyes look over every aspect of what makes a car a car. It's the Apple iPhone approach to cars. For years everyone approached the problem one way and then Apple came and showed everyone that they were all chasing the wrong solution. Tesla is in the same boat only Tesla has the benefit of a decade head start and an industry that took a better part of a decade to figure out that this is a serious market. Apple's competitors figured that out in months.
It will be interesting to see how the industry adapts.
to be fair, the european market ev cars are not driven as far as an american ev car. they dont have the land mass we do. the range is probably plenty for that market. my wife would need to charge once every two months if she just drove to work and back and assuming it would hold its charge that long.
I on the other hand wouldnt get more than a day off a charge, sometimes half a day
I on the other hand wouldnt get more than a day off a charge, sometimes half a day
It’s called “First principle” thinking. They approach everything with a “why do it this way” attitude. That’s why you get stuff like no ignition switch and automatic free software updates.
Followed by this.
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Tesla Model 3 leads industry in value retention, barely loses any value after a year
Tesla Model 3 is leading the industry in value retention by barely losing any value after a year and half...
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actually it is interesting that the sales volume of the 3 in particular is lower: http://www.ev-volumes.com/country/usa/
i'm unclear what they mean exactly by their interpretation of it, nonetheless the total is certainlly still up yea over year, the other manufacturers not faring so well
i'm unclear what they mean exactly by their interpretation of it, nonetheless the total is certainlly still up yea over year, the other manufacturers not faring so well
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