Making a larger purchase online safely?

[ajdereicup]

So I'm tossing around the idea of buying a shortblock this guy has for $2k. I said paypal but the guy said noway. He said he doesn't have a business account and has heard horror stories of PP freezing accounts that receive large amounts of money?

He said that he uses western union with a credit card for large purchases so he can dispute it if something goes wrong and get his money back but I thought WU was a big no no because of scammers?

Any thoughts on how I could do it safely to keep my ass covered in case he tries some BS?

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[Prevent]

scam no thanks


tell this fuck its 2014 if he expects to sell it online he better be prepared to deal with ass pounding paypal.

 

[VenomousDSG]

Sounds like a scam to me...

 

[ajdereicup]

Was kinda worried about that.

I did mention me sending the money to someone I know in his area to have them check out the block and then pay him when it's sent but no response yet. Although its late as fuck on the East Coast

 

[Mike K]

NO. There is no reason someone can't have a Paypal account. At worst they put the money on hold for 21 days or until the buyer confirms they have received the item in question. If you haven't done that within 21 days then they auto-release the funds.

If he doesn't have an account it might be because he's already burned through it scamming people.

People assume they can run a chargeback on anything but you can't. With Western Union you are giving them permission to charge your card with the understanding that you're more or less sending someone cash. It's not a charge you could chargeback and once the guy has the money he has it. There's absolutely zero recourse. He also knows this.

Red flags all around here.

 

[ajdereicup]

Nooo he has a paypal just not a business account. He said he has heard nonbusiness accounts can be frozen if they get a large sum of money sent to them?

 

[IZZy]

Thats not true, I sold a shortblock for $3600 and as soon as I got it I transfered it to my bank account.

How far away is he?

 

[ajdereicup]

If I do end up doing it I'll just send the money to a friend that's local to the guy and have him pay him AFTER the engine is inspected and shipped out to be safe

 

[ajdereicup]

Out in NY. Seems kind of fishy because he said he'd sell it to the first person and there were a few other people in line and the fact he said he didn't want to part it out yet all of a sudden he's willing to sell me the shortblock

 

[1quick]

if you get your paypal account authorized its 3-4 days to have the money in your checking account and i dont think there is a max on transactions, I sold a turbo kit for 3k and had the full amount in my checking account 3 days later

 

[guspech750]

Tell this shithead to beat it.

Plenty of engines else where. This can't be the only engine owned by this shithead.

I'd rather pay more else where and use Paypal.

Fuck this guy and his mother.

 

[Gone_2022]

Out in NY. Seems kind of fishy because he said he'd sell it to the first person and there were a few other people in line and the fact he said he didn't want to part it out yet all of a sudden he's willing to sell me the shortblock

The old salesman trick of "but there are a ton of people coming to look at this"

This is a scam. If you don't regularly do transactions all the time there is a waiting period on paypal to protect the buyer. He knows he is scamming that's why he said no.

 

[deviantlx]

Walk away. You will be sorry if you didn't.


What kind of shortblock are you in the market for?

 

[Gone_2022]

If it does not feel right or if u have to question it at all it probably isn't right.

End of story

 

[Ti28]

Don't do it.

You can't find something local-ish in that price range?

 

[DEEZUZ]

Go for it

 

[ajdereicup]

Fully forged 4.6. It wasn't exactly what I was looking for seeing as I was preferring a stroker but for $2k it was cheaper all put together then I'm going to have into the rotating assembly for my block. Just saw it and figured it was a nice deal and would save me from building the engine myself

 

[blakbearddelite]

I don't know that I'd buy a supposedly forged 4.6 from someone that I don't know. $2k seems like a really good deal, that enough would make me leery.

If I could find a forged 4.6 for that price right now, I'd pick it up myself. I pretty much threw away the option of building one from the components I already have. It would cost me more than $2k in additional parts and machine to put together what I already have.

 

[boostedguy05]

$2,000.00 is not a large enough ammount for Pay Pal to lock up. when they say larg sum they are referring to >10,000 im sure.

 

[Gone_2022]

$2,000.00 is not a large enough ammount for Pay Pal to lock up. when they say larg sum they are referring to >10,000 im sure.

I think he means that waiting period from when he transfers the money to when the buyer can take it. Like 20 something days? Unless the seller confirms reciept of goods and is satisfied. Otherwise he could dispute the charges and paypal could freeze the funds. Or unless the seller is someone who doesn't many transactions everyday. Like the eBay power sellers.

 

[MIKES3]

Unless he's willing to meet up with your buddy ditch the doucebag

 

[deviantlx]

I had over 22k in paypal and they never froze my account for anything. that guy sounds leery as fuck.


heres the deal. something is wrong with that bitch. he won't use paypal cause he knows when paypal sees the pictures they are going to refund the money.

im not a fan of paypal but I won't hesitate to use it. im just not going to eat the fees. I tell everyone "no problem, your paying the fees." simple enough. if they are cool I usually pay the shipping as a nice gesture.

 

[ajdereicup]

Thanks for the help guys. It did seem like it was too good of a deal. He's trying to push the deal now. If anyone knows someone out in NY that wants it and is willing to take the time to check it out and see if it is good or not I'll tell them the link.

Kellogg lightened nitride 4340 crank
Manley H beam rods with ARP2000 bolts
CP pistons 2618 alloy pistons with 22cc dish Teflon coated
Teflon coated bearings
Chromoly rings
made 1219rwhp
500 miles

If only it was closer so I wouldn't have to risk the money crap and could inspect it

Damn mod motors being so expensive to build

 

[Ti28]

where in NY?

 

[ajdereicup]

I think closer to NJ but not sure exactly. Guys on FB