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My wife was a public school teacher before she stayed home with the kids. I've felt the union scam first hand!
She never got laid off, but she'd tell me about solid performing/driven new teachers would get laid off after a year or two, while tenured 60 year olds who didn't care about the job anymore would keep their jobs. Meanwhile the 60 year old who wasn't worth a damn would be making over 2 times what the younger teacher would make.
Made no sense to me.
She never got laid off, but she'd tell me about solid performing/driven new teachers would get laid off after a year or two, while tenured 60 year olds who didn't care about the job anymore would keep their jobs. Meanwhile the 60 year old who wasn't worth a damn would be making over 2 times what the younger teacher would make.
Made no sense to me.
I agree with you on the private sector unions. They really are an evil disease. I've seen firsthand how the private sector Chicago tradesmen operate. It's a complete drain on taxpayers!
I'm a union pipefitter, and I can tell you nothing but our package wage is guaranteed to us. We can be laid off anytime our employer gets slow, feels like we aren't worth a shit, or any other reason. The union does not guarantee us a job. We get an hours pay for an hours work...no more, no less. Our package right now is right around $80/hr and people pay us because we are skilled and worth it. Our training and apprenticeship program is second to none. Anyone ever drive by the 597 Pipefitters training building I80 in Mokena? It's an awesome facility.
Like I told you, people around here have such a bad taste from unions because of the private sector leeches.
My pay, healthcare, pension, and 401k costs the public taxpayer 0 dollars.
Are you sure your total package is $46? That's with your hourly wage, pension, healthcare, and any other benefits?
I partly agree. It doesn't cost the general taxpayers anything, just consumers who buy from the company that passes the pension costs onto the people that buy their products.
I didn't get a raise for two years at my last company because they weren't performing well. I would have felt a lot better about it if I was getting a free ride in retirement.
I got a 10% pay cut for 6 months of last year and we set a profit and free cash flow record. Corporate wouldn't accept the fact that we were going to miss our 2016 financial plan.
Private sector is ruthless!
Package is $46 and hourly rate is $132?!?! Holy shit that's crazy! Most shops normally charge around $120ish/hr for us. I have a work van so they charge $140/hr for me.
Lmao, a free ride in retirement? My entire retirement is paid for by ME! By wages I've earned! My employer makes a healthy profit and us pipefitters make a comfy middle class living. Why are you so mad? You want me to tell you how to sign up for the test to get into the apprenticeship? It's hard work and dangerous, but very satisfying to actually accomplish and build something with your hands.
I think you're confused on how our pension works. I don't actually make $80/hr on my check. Part of my hourly package goes towards my pension. That is invested by the union and disbursed to members. At no point after my hourly package is paid does the employer have any responsibility to our pension.
lol you're taking that comment too seriously. You have a choice to buy non union made goods. If unions cause you loss of sleep, simply don't support them by buying union made products or hiring union personnel.
My 2 union neighbors tell me all the time how they go in and work 4 to 6 hours and get paid for 8. My one neighbor was having a beer with us just this past week and was laughing that technically he was still on the clock. One is in the welders union the other is in the tapers union. Great for them, not so much for everyone else.
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