Can anyone here fabricate a small metal job for me? - Mini biki header

[Freebeer187]

Yes please i would love some pics and a tutorial to remove the governer

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

http://www.affordablegokarts.com/govenor-removal.php

You can do it without taking it apart but really that's the best way.

When I get to work tomorrow I'll take some pics of the easier way. I'll pm you back in a bit.

 

[Freebeer187]

http://www.affordablegokarts.com/govenor-removal.php

You can do it without taking it apart but really that's the best way.

When I get to work tomorrow I'll take some pics of the easier way. I'll pm you back in a bit.

Thank you man! Yes that tutorial looks rather difficult >:|

I would really appreciate a easier way

 

[Freebeer187]

Which header should I get? I want a muffler on it.

From here(near the middle): Afforablegokarts

Straight header
Candy Cane

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

If you look at the installed views I'd say straight pipe one. The candy cane points down.

 

[Freebeer187]

If you look at the installed views I'd say straight pipe one. The candy cane points down.

Looks like the other forum recomended me to get this one:
Mini Bike Exhaust - Honda/Clone

I guess the way its bent will allow it to fit better on my murray frame? This build would be rather expensive because next the guy recomends me to get this muffler off of ebay. It looks like it needs to be welded on. It would run $100+ before the weld job. >:|

 

[Freebeer187]

Going to Lombard now to pick up the engine! Weeeeeeee lots of coffee for me!

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

With a long pipe like that they're really not that loud....I mean they're loud but not crazy loud. Just hack the stock muffler off the little flange/pipe and weld a piece of long straight pipe on it.

Or just buy that first pipe without a muffler you posted.

 

[Freebeer187]

With a long pipe like that they're really not that loud....I mean they're loud but not crazy loud. Just hack the stock muffler off the little flange/pipe and weld a piece of long straight pipe on it.

Or just buy that first pipe without a muffler you posted.

Good idea. Here are a few pics just fyi:

I was thinking of just buying/using the existing flange... Im most likley going to need that to get done professionally as I do not know how to weld... Yeah maby just go with a straight pipe and then if its too loud pop a muffler on there.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Did you pick up the engine yet?

Here's a few pics showing what to do with the limiter lever. When you remove it make sure the part it's on doesn't fall in. It should have a little clip on it but they can pop off.

Then when you re install it put some vise grips on the end of the rod sticking up; it'll make it easier. You want to push the lever as far down as possible and into that gas tank mount as much as you can. You also need to pull up on the rod and twist it all the way clockwise then tighten down the bolt.

Then you need this guy to connect the throttle lever to the carb. Then you run your throttle cable through the lever and to your pedal.

 

[radioguy6]

those the 6.5HP hondas? how much more can you wind out without the limiters/governor?

 

[Freebeer187]

Did you pick up the engine yet?

Here's a few pics showing what to do with the limiter lever. When you remove it make sure the part it's on doesn't fall in. It should have a little clip on it but they can pop off.


Then when you re install it put some vise grips on the end of the rod sticking up; it'll make it easier. You want to push the lever as far down as possible and into that gas tank mount as much as you can. You also need to pull up on the rod and twist it all the way clockwise then tighten down the bolt.

Then you need this guy to connect the throttle lever to the carb. Then you run your throttle cable through the lever and to your pedal.

Thank you very much for coming through with those pics! Yes, I did purchase the Honda clone this morning for $82 after tax! Im going to open it up and take a look at it later tonight. At the moment, looking at your pictures I do not know what or where I need to install that spring, but after looking at the engine I bought tonight I should be able to figure it out

Oh and check it out! I found a guy that custom makes a header just for this build (engine/frame combo). Its got a unscrewable muffler so I can run a straight pipe and a muffled exhause. Pretty sweat

$60 shipped. Putting in my order today

All that is left is the sprocket, chain, clutch and air filter.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

those the 6.5HP hondas? how much more can you wind out without the limiters/governor?

We run them to about 5200. I think they're limited at 3200-3500.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

The air filter is no big deal unless you want like that k&n kit. Just take the box off the top.

 

[Freebeer187]

The air filter is no big deal unless you want like that k&n kit. Just take the box off the top.

I believe that the whole air filter assembly will not fit on the chassis. Thats why im pretty sure I need to replace the air filter. Looks like I will need to re-jet it too... I was recommended a .037

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Ah ok. That k&n kit I think stays straight vs the stock airbox going 90*

Re jet? Ours run perfect with stock jetting. Plugs are always a nice tan color

 

[Freebeer187]

Here is where I am at:

I have:

• Engine (6.5 HP Honda Clone) ($82)
• Throttle Kit ($18)
• Header in the works

I need:

• Clutch #35 12 tooth 3/4" ($29.99)
• Steel Sprocket - 66 Tooth / #35 Chain ($15.54)
• #35 Standard Chain ($16.50)
• Air Filter Angled ($10)
• Air Box to Carb Gasket - Honda GX200 / Clone ($2.90)
• Air Filter Adapter ($9)
• ARC Chain Breaker - #35 chain ($21)
• Choke Assembly Bracket ($2.50)
• BSP/Clone Main Jet .037 ($3.25)
• Exhaust Gasket ($1)

 

[Freebeer187]

Ah ok. That k&n kit I think stays straight vs the stock airbox going 90*

Re jet? Ours run perfect with stock jetting. Plugs are always a nice tan color

Yeah im not sure, it was suggested though. Doesn't mean its mandatory but what the hell the part is only a few bucks. Ill pick it up just in case.

 

[radioguy6]

not sure if you know but there's a local gokart shop in Carol Stream on Gary ave. I think they sell minibike parts too, I bought a couple things from there once. Internet prices may be better but thought i'd share.

Viking Karting Products
283 South Gary Avenue
Carol Stream, IL 60188-2006
(630) 260-9516

 

[Freebeer187]

not sure if you know but there's a local gokart shop in Carol Stream on Gary ave. I think they sell minibike parts too, I bought a couple things from there once. Internet prices may be better but thought i'd share.

Viking Karting Products
283 South Gary Avenue
Carol Stream, IL 60188-2006
(630) 260-9516

Ha funny u mention this. It took me about 40 minutes to find these guys number the other day. My pops actually bought this mini bike from there 7 years or so go. I am definitely planning on picking up a few things from there. Thanks for looking out!

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

You start working on it yet?

If you pull the air box off and pull the carb out a bit you can see where the linkage goes for the throttle to carb. It's the black plastic piece where the little spring an metal rod are.

Does your throttle kit come with it? Otherwise I've got one here for you.

You doing a dry clutch?

 

[Freebeer187]

You start working on it yet?

If you pull the air box off and pull the carb out a bit you can see where the linkage goes for the throttle to carb. It's the black plastic piece where the little spring an metal rod are.

Does your throttle kit come with it? Otherwise I've got one here for you.

You doing a dry clutch?

I havent started working on it yet. Still at work. Due to the rain, I dont think im going to attempt to mount the engine tonight. Im for sure going to open the box and check out the engine though.

I do not have the throttle kit yet, but I do have a picture of what it will include. Check it out. Maby you will see it?

Throttle Linkage Kit
Installation tutorial

And im afraid to ask, but what is a dry clutch? Here is my parts list at the moment.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

That was $30? Yikes! I see the linkage there along with everything you need....though you can get 90% of that for like $8 at a bike shop.

A dry clutch is exposed while a wet clutch has a housing around it and is in an oil bath. We run wet clutches but they're pricey. Dry clutch can be had much cheaper. It's what we have on the outdoor karts.

 

[Freebeer187]

That was $30? Yikes! I see the linkage there along with everything you need....though you can get 90% of that for like $8 at a bike shop.

A dry clutch is exposed while a wet clutch has a housing around it and is in an oil bath. We run wet clutches but they're pricey. Dry clutch can be had much cheaper. It's what we have on the outdoor karts.

Yeah... $30. Im going with a dry clutch. Actually I think im going to begin working on it tonight too. Well see. At least get it mounted before I start spending a bunch of money on it.

What do you suggest I do with that linkage kit and the governor? That tear down tutorial looks like a real PITA. Actually, it looks like ill break it for sure X|
Will that external governor removal u suggested with with that kit?

 

[radioguy6]

the cheap $20-30 centrifugal clutches last a long time and stand up to alot of abuse. If you are just using the bike for a street cruiser/light off road they are perfect. If the end of crankshaft is tapped, i'd recommend putting a fender washer and bolt on there to prevent it from moving.