📰 Auto News Rivian recalls nearly all vehicles (both R1S and R1T)

[CMNTMXR57]

I'm about to go all Karen managerial on yo ass.

It has everything to do with the manufacturer. The idiot on the assembly line is part of the manufacturing process. Rivian failed to close a hole in their process to prevent this sort of hu an error from happening. The same goes for GM in your steering wheel nut scenario. Can the problem be tracked down to one guy? Probably, but it won't be their job to fix it. Rivian will have to be the one to discipline/sack that employee and rewrite the process to prevent future fuck ups. I deal with this shit every day, and it sucks because the real fix is almost a paradox. Human error will always be present. Yet, we're supposed to eliminate it... as cheaply... and safely... and as high of quality... as possible. Automation helps, but that comes with a lot of red tape.

I'm just getting vibes from others here that a loose nut is not a big deal when it is. Luckily for Rivian, the recall is as simple as torquing that nut and shouldn't involve much if any disassembly of the vehicle.

Because they're hindered by the UAW. You should hear the horror stories from some of these plants where half the workforce shows up drunk/high. it's no wonder shit like this happened (at the GM plant, not the Rivian). But you can't just walk out and fire the person.

They go get their union rep involved and it's 6 months of red tape and CYA'ing.

I'm not excusing it, but I wish it were easier to kick some lazy fuck in the ass showing him the door.

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

I'm trying to remember what year it was the GM started with the snap ring that went on above the steering wheel nut.

For some reason I am recalling that the steering wheel hun spline would loosen and the nut might back off and so they added that little triangular f****** lock clip as a redundant safety feature

 

[Stink Star]

I'm sure most/all are with Rivian. Tesla does a bunch too, but still has the brick and mortar if you choose.

Mobile service is unrivaled. They just come to your house/work and it’s fixed. No fuss, no figuring out how you’re gonna get home, no rental car worries, no having to take a long lunch break at work to stop by the dealer to drop off/pick up. It’s truly luxurious. And now that I’ve had a taste I don’t ever want to go back

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

Mobile service is unrivaled. They just come to your house/work and it’s fixed. No fuss, no figuring out how you’re gonna get home, no rental car worries, no having to take a long lunch break at work to stop by the dealer to drop off/pick up. It’s truly luxurious. And now that I’ve had a taste I don’t ever want to go back

I don't blame you!

 

[Yaj Yak]

Mobile service is unrivaled. They just come to your house/work and it’s fixed. No fuss, no figuring out how you’re gonna get home, no rental car worries, no having to take a long lunch break at work to stop by the dealer to drop off/pick up. It’s truly luxurious. And now that I’ve had a taste I don’t ever want to go back

i mean, isn't free pickup/drop off just fine as well though

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

i mean, isn't free pickup/drop off just fine as well though

Pretty much, unless you have a car seat(s) to transfer, etc.

 

[Stink Star]

i mean, isn't free pickup/drop off just fine as well though

Close. But you don’t have some sweaty, high as fuck porter taking your car on a joyride back to the dealership. Plus the car seat thing

 

[Yaj Yak]

Close. But you don’t have some sweaty, high as fuck porter taking your car on a joyride back to the dealership. Plus the car seat thing

the bro that picked up my navi last reminded me of a retired mafia hitman.

adn then i watched him on my app drive to the dealer at half the speed of smell.

 

[v6buicks]

Because they're hindered by the UAW. You should hear the horror stories from some of these plants where half the workforce shows up drunk/high. it's no wonder shit like this happened (at the GM plant, not the Rivian). But you can't just walk out and fire the person.

They go get their union rep involved and it's 6 months of red tape and CYA'ing.

I'm not excusing it, but I wish it were easier to kick some lazy fuck in the ass showing him the door.

lol I wasn't going to start that potential war, but I totally agree. UAW is a real stain on America. My company formed it's own unions basically to lower the potential of a UAW raid which I thought was pretty smart and beneficial for everybody involved. Everyone gets treated a lot better and with more dignity. There are still a huge amount of over-paid button pushers though.

 

[Spivitz]

Rivian Falls Apart – 24/7 Wall St.

Rivian continues to move toward the car model junkyard graveyard. People who buy a Rivian will end up with a collector’s item.

247wallst.com

 

[v6buicks]

It's only a matter of time before they're done. Now that the well established mainstream automakers have caught up to Tesla, Rivian doesn't stand a chance. I won't be at all surprised if Tesla isn't in bigger trouble soon if their lineup doesn't get a long overdue facelift.

 

[frank]

It's only a matter of time before they're done. Now that the well established mainstream automakers have caught up to Tesla, Rivian doesn't stand a chance. I won't be at all surprised if Tesla isn't in bigger trouble soon if their lineup doesn't get a long overdue facelift.

I agree, but Tesla will always have a following with the easy sales process, service experiences, different then everything else in the road, and just like Apple products they will always have you coming back to upgrade to the newest models.

Once the Tesla roadster and truck make it to the market, other manufacturers are going to have some issues.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Do people want the roadster though? The truck looking the way it does I think will hurt sales minus the total nut swingers.

 

[Chet Donnelly]

Sad.....I actually really like the Rivians I've seen on the road. The pickup is definitely on my shortlist for next vehicle when I give my F-150 to my daughter when she turns 16.

 

[Spivitz]

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Lucid is going to go under too. It's pretty clear that it is absurdly difficult to start a new car company from scratch, even tesla barely made it through their first 5-7 years and they were the only player in the market. With any competition whatsoever they'd have gone under, elon should be thrilled that the other automakers are such late adopters. It only would have taken one decent EV from one automaker to take tesla off the board early.

The tesla price squeeze will be the final nail in the coffin for all the EV startups

 

[NOMIEZVR4]

That sucks.. competition would work in our favor for the consumer

 

[Chet Donnelly]

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To be fair though this isn't totally abnormal for a startup division like this. The top line sales aren't strong enough yet to cover the fixed cost investment to get it started. If they can scale their volume, then the fixed cost per unit sold can decrease dramatically. There is also likely huge R&D investments up front they are having to cover that should decrease (not sure if they'd be able to capitalize it or not).

Now if they can't scale up their volume.....then they do have a massive problem.

I do feel like corporations and government are trying to force electrification earlier than the market is possibly ready for it, but I guess time will tell. Wall Street factors in ESG scores into how they treat stocks, so it seems some corpos are making possibly poor financial decisions just to appease Wall Streets thirst for ESG scores. This is the problem with woke banks pushing this crap.

 

[Spivitz]

Ryan02Stang

Oh it's definitely political.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Maybe that means that once Lucid goes out, no one will want their Airs' anymore and their value will tank and I can pick up either an Air Grand Touring or Air Sapphire for pennies on the dollar.

One can wish, right.

 

[Stink Star]

It's only a matter of time before they're done. Now that the well established mainstream automakers have caught up to Tesla, Rivian doesn't stand a chance. I won't be at all surprised if Tesla isn't in bigger trouble soon if their lineup doesn't get a long overdue facelift.

Wtf are you talking about? In what planet are mainstream OEMs “caught up to Tesla”? Tesla sold 422,000 cars in Q1 this year alone, their best q1 to date. GM sold 20,000 EVs, only 2 of them being hummers. Ford lost $60,000 on every EV they sold. Rivian is doing quite well with their production ramp and are on target with their goals. The EV company that is most screwed is Lucid. Maybe you have them and Rivian confused?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Toyota staying with hybrids and avoiding EVs is all you need to know about EVs.

 

[v6buicks]

Wtf are you talking about? In what planet are mainstream OEMs “caught up to Tesla”? Tesla sold 422,000 cars in Q1 this year alone, their best q1 to date. GM sold 20,000 EVs, only 2 of them being hummers. Ford lost $60,000 on every EV they sold. Rivian is doing quite well with their production ramp and are on target with their goals. The EV company that is most screwed is Lucid. Maybe you have them and Rivian confused?

Tesla doesn't have anything except a cult following which won't last long if they don't create a second generation of any of their cars. All the other brands were caught with their pants down when Tesla built a desirable EV 11 years ago. But that's 3 lifetimes ago in the auto industry. Everyone else has had time to develop similar garbage since then. Meanwhile, Tesla has hardly done anything to follow up. The truck STILL hasn't happened, and the Plaid is unaffordable while still retaining am ancient and terribly built body/chassis. Other brands will take over and surpass sales if this entire fad doesn't collapse first.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Ancient body/chassis...

Isn't there a track package Model S Plaid out there the turns in insane lap times. It adds better brakes which was a weak point, along with bigger tire/wheel combo. It must be doing something right... I mean until the Porsche Taycan set the record, the Model S Plaid was that fastest EV around the ring.

Is it a bit pricey, yea... But that's what seperates them from all the other penalty box EV's that few want, on the market.

 

[Stink Star]

Tesla doesn't have anything except a cult following which won't last long if they don't create a second generation of any of their cars. All the other brands were caught with their pants down when Tesla built a desirable EV 11 years ago. But that's 3 lifetimes ago in the auto industry. Everyone else has had time to develop similar garbage since then. Meanwhile, Tesla has hardly done anything to follow up. The truck STILL hasn't happened, and the Plaid is unaffordable while still retaining am ancient and terribly built body/chassis. Other brands will take over and surpass sales if this entire fad doesn't collapse first.

Literally The only thing similar on new teslas to old teslas is the exterior sheet metal. They are on basically V3 of the chassis on S/X now. The interior is 100% new. Model 3/Y have switched from dozens of stamped sheet metal panels to 1 piece cast chassis front and back. New exterior refresh model 3 is being launched possibly next Tuesday. Cyber truck is coming late this year not to mention they are launching a new, cheaper car next year.
Meanwhile classic OEMs are still running software so bad that they turn to Apple and google to run their in car entertainment and can’t even sell 10% of what tesla is doing. Not to mention they lose tens of thousands of dollars every time they sell an EV while Tesla has one of the highest margins in the entire industry.