SFC's - Bolt in or weld ins... Trans mount/mid frame tq arm Pros and cons

[firemandan1700]

I need to be schooled on some suspension parts. Mainly the sfc and Trans/mid frame tq arm. Pros? Cons?

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[willizm]

I have bolt ins from umi. They are just two point bars on either side. They bolted up really nice. Can't say how they effected the ride as I also did lower control arms, new shocks all around, torque arm an panhard bar. I didn't want weld in sfc's because I'm constantly doing crap to the car and if thy need to come off I didn't want to deal with te headache of a welded on piece.

 

[willizm]

Also, if you get a torque arm make sure it's adjustable and I recommend a tunnel mount. The trans mount torque arms can put too much strain on the tail of the trans. Let me know if you need any help picking stuff out. The best mods for suspension I think are lower control arms with relocation brackets and good shocks to start with.

 

[Bru]

I have weld-in two-point subframes and they made a huge difference in stiffening the car. I can't say it did anything for performance but the car has fewer squeaks, rattles and rides a lot firmer and more solid after the pieces went in.

The torque arm I'm running is a Spohn tunnel mount. It transmits a lot more noise from the rear end into the cabin and clunks a bunch, which I read is common. The car feels a lot more planted and controlled on the street when mashing it from a dig.

 

[CrunkMaro]

double diamond sfcs-boltin/weldin (both)
i have used the trans mounted tq arm and tunnel mounted
i love tunnel mounted...the hardest part is drilling those holes without removing the carpet lol
i didn't hear much more interior noise, but that car was loud anyway

 

[willizm]

^What tunnel mount did you use? My umi bolted right in using the existing holes from that exhaust shield thingy dealy. My tunnel mount also had a driveshaft loop.

 

[Bru]

^What tunnel mount did you use? My umi bolted right in using the existing holes from that exhaust shield thingy dealy. My tunnel mount also had a driveshaft loop.

 

[firemandan1700]

The best mods for suspension I think are lower control arms with relocation brackets and good shocks to start with.

Well right now I do have some lcas. What shocks are a good set. Ive read on a couple different ones, and would like to hear your opinions. Same with lowering springs.

 

[Eagle]

Sam Strano for lowering springs. QA1s for shocks, SA is fine DA is DA bomb. Weld in ALWAYS. Tunnel mount. Adjustable is a must, or you'll just end up buying adjustable later.

 

[CamaroSS]

im also using umi torque arm with a relocation bracket. im using strano springs with koni shocks. i love the setup but its not a track setup like a qa1 would be. i wanted handling since my car really doesnt go to the track

 

[firemandan1700]

QA1s for shocks, SA is fine DA is DA bomb. Weld in ALWAYS.

300+ dollars per shock for the DAs! Pretty cashy but there probably wayyy worth it. Do you have DAs on all 4s?

Now what would the difference be between weldins and bolt on? Is it just the fact that the frame is then part of the car as a whole vs. a bolt in, which is only afixiated to a certian point on the subframe of the car?

Who did your weld ins eagle? Did you take it to a local shop or did you do it yourself?

 

[willizm]

I'm running cheapo KYB AGX shocks with stock springs on all 4 corners. I have no complaints

 

[Eagle]

I'm running cheapo KYB AGX shocks with stock springs on all 4 corners. I have no complaints

blech. I sold mine. They don't hold a candle to the QA1s.

 

[Eagle]

300+ dollars per shock for the DAs! Pretty cashy but there probably wayyy worth it. Do you have DAs on all 4s?

Now what would the difference be between weldins and bolt on? Is it just the fact that the frame is then part of the car as a whole vs. a bolt in, which is only afixiated to a certian point on the subframe of the car?

Who did your weld ins eagle? Did you take it to a local shop or did you do it yourself?

I did it myself with my MIG welder. I've done 2-3 more sets since then in my garage on other cars

 

[Ron Vogel]

I did it myself with my MIG welder. I've done 2-3 more sets since then in my garage on other cars

Weld ins are pretty easy. I did a weld in kit for a Stang a month or two ago that was even missing parts I had to fab up, and it was only a few hours to do with me taking my sweet time and never working on a Fox body Mustang.


Most people that buy bolt in's weld them and bolt them. If you can only imagine the forces they endure you wouldn't just bolt them in. If the welds are done right, they can be removed later with a grinder without messing up the chassis.

 

[willizm]

blech. I sold mine. They don't hold a candle to the QA1s.

The agx shocks were night and day better than my stockers, but may go to these down the road.

 

[XxApollynxX]

UMI 3 point weld ins, they tuck so nice and stiffen it up really nice and ditto on the dash squeeks and feeling more solid. As far as torque arms I loved tunnel mounted, and got to get adjustable. Happy modding.