....LONG tubes that is I got a pretty sweet deal, $430 shipped from a newer co. called "on 3 motorsports", found them over on Mfords. FYI Lethal Performance sells the headers for $460 + $40ish or so for shipping. I bought the Mac's 1 & 5/8 inch ceramac coated. I checked them out, The flanges have a little pittin on them but look pretty straight for $400 compard to $800+ for others. Also I noticed a small weld mark inside one of the header tubes, I may or may not grind it down . I tried to take a picture of it, it is the last picture. What's your thoughts on it? I'm going to bolt them on the engine this weekend, if my stage 8 bolts come in. Little info I found on those bolts too, Stage 8 sells the header bolts as does Ford racing which are $20 more, and which most people sell. I found out that the Ford Racing ones are made by stage 8 just in a "ford racing" box, so If you can find reg. stage 8's, it will save you 20 bucks.