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Why are cams a no-no on Terminators?
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Tuning them is a nightmare. I know at least half a dozen people who have had problems with their tune after adding cams. Seems like the computer keeps trying to adjust the tune back into accepted parameters which don't work with the cams.
For the power cams will give you, nitrous is a much cheaper and easier solution.
For the power cams will give you, nitrous is a much cheaper and easier solution.
The answers to your questions are contained within your post.SonicBlur said:
There are power gains to be had, but the "bang for the buck" ratio is poor, especially if you haven't already upgraded to a twin-screw blower. Nevermind the added complexity associated with tuning them.
IMO, for most of us street car guys cams are only practical and cost effective if you've already got the longblock apart for other upgrades.
Zack said:
[email protected] said:
Seems like this info took a while to filter down to many shops and some may still not know it. I know more than one cammed Terminator that ran good for a few days and then had the tune degenerate.
SonicBlur said:
Mike, just for your info, I paid $850 for the crower 3's, $500 for the springs etc, and about $500 to install the springs and degree all of the cams, this is also with the engine out of the car for a rebuild.
So like $1850 for cams is like almost a twin screw for you.
another FYI, cams with a eaton car ='s less hp/tq, horrible drivabilty.
For you I would save the cash and do the twin screw.
The only reason I have cams is because the engine is out of the car. I also went back and forth for a couple of weeks about doing the cams. I just hope I don't regret it. If so Im gonna have to pull the engine and switch out the cams
gnxs said:
:foshizzle
We'll see if I have any problems with my cams, hope not
Flyn high again said:Seems like this info took a while to filter down to many shops and some may still not know it. I know more than one cammed Terminator that ran good for a few days and then had the tune degenerate.
It is plain scary that those people are allowed to touch other peoples cars, let alone get paid for it! Understanding how adaptive learning works is a basic understanding with tuning.
Actually, your situation is what kept me from just biting the bulllet with a cam setup. I really didn't think about it but paying a little extra later for a Kenne Bell has a greater gain than any set of cams could offer. But I wish there was a way to get that damn sound....well, other than running aroung with vacuumm hoses loose, LOL!!VenomInside said:
-Mike
SonicBlur said:
Maybe this will change your mind. Not my car, but man is this nice.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/cobra+cams/0/9ef5df48-f74e-42d8-a6a1-f4eab710b5ca.htm
Or this.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/cobra+cams/0/a432f2a8-8ca7-4004-ab3a-2f071f1c6fda.htm
VenomInside said:
Didn't some company get caught sending out the WRONG cams which caused all the troubles people just like you had? I guess now people (mechanics) have to confirm the cams by measuring them to see if they are the right ones first?
If this applies to your car, can you imagine the horror of trying to get that car tuned, only to be screwed no matter what? That must have sucked. I really DO NOT know your story, but when I read about the bad cams I think it was "COMP" cams that was sending out the wrong ones. Anyway, that must have sucked.
I'd love to have that sound though, it is cool.
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