Bad Measurement :-(

[Zack]

I just proved to myself that in order the install this TH400, one of the headers has to be removed.
M' F'er, really upset about this.

If you were me, would you just drop the K, do the job and re-install it.....
.....or put a K-Member in?

I dont really want to spend the money on it, but everytime I look how cramped this car is, it seems to make more and more sense.

I had a Team Z K Member once, but I sold it. If I buy a K Member and it makes god awful noises, im gonna hate the car and sell it

DOnt know what to do here.

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[FirstWorldProblems]

If it were me, I'd put a K member in. However, if you don't plan on taking it to the track, I see no point. The battery is still up front too, isn't it?

 

[Zack]

If it were me, I'd put a K member in. However, if you don't plan on taking it to the track, I see no point. The battery is still up front too, isn't it?

Yeah, its up front.

Whats the logic in a K Member good for the track but not the street, weight transfer?

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Yeah, its up front.

Whats the logic in a K Member good for the track but not the street, weight transfer?

They almost always make noise and there's really no such thing as weight transfer on a 17" tire on regular roads. They save 100 lbs...which is hardly noticeable on the street.

 

[Zack]

They almost always make noise and there's really no such thing as weight transfer on a 17" tire on regular roads. They save 100 lbs...which is hardly noticeable on the street.

Guess ill have to suck it up and just do the job..... on the floor.


Just bought a 200 dollar trans jack for this.... lol

 

[Zack]

If I could access the nuts enough to loosen them, the header may be able to swing out of the way just enough.
Maybe Ill try that first.

 

[IZZy]

My UPR doesn't make any noise and I love the extra room

 

[Zack]

My UPR doesn't make any noise and I love the extra room

Guess its hit or miss with the noises huh?

I dont want to spend the money on the K, thats why I havent bought one yet.

I have to push the car off the lift, turn it around in the sloped driveway, then push it back in and do all this on the floor.
Even though this is gonna be a shitload of work, I would rather spend 3 months working on this auto swap then ever having to deal with that gay ass stick shift again.

 

[Pressure Ratio]

They almost always make noise and there's really no such thing as weight transfer on a 17" tire on regular roads. They save 100 lbs...which is hardly noticeable on the street.

Weight transfer of the body has nothing to do with the tires on it. And read up about sprung and un-sprung weight.

The weight loss on the front of the car and the extra room are huge pluses to doing a K member.

My UPR doesn't make any noise and I love the extra room

The K member itself should not make any noise unless it is flexing or just poorly built or designed.

The control arm choice can effect things some. A rubber or poly control arm bushing will be quieter than a rod end style of course.

And some people have issues with noise when they use coil overs. But there are kits that allow you to use coil mounts on the a arms. Some kits even allow you to use factory control arms.

If you want the some thing that is beefed up more than your average drag race K member check out the Maximum Motorsports K members and parts. Their road race k members are going to be some thing you may want to upgrade to.

 

[Zack]

Thanks for the input so far.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Guess its hit or miss with the noises huh?

I dont want to spend the money on the K, thats why I havent bought one yet.

I have to push the car off the lift, turn it around in the sloped driveway, then push it back in and do all this on the floor.
Even though this is gonna be a shitload of work, I would rather spend 3 months working on this auto swap then ever having to deal with that gay ass stick shift again.

If you need a hand pushing, just give me a call or text.

Weight transfer of the body has nothing to do with the tires on it. And read up about sprung and un-sprung weight.

The weight loss on the front of the car and the extra room are huge pluses to doing a K member.



The K member itself should not make any noise unless it is flexing or just poorly built or designed.

The control arm choice can effect things some. A rubber or poly control arm bushing will be quieter than a rod end style of course.

And some people have issues with noise when they use coil overs. But there are kits that allow you to use coil mounts on the a arms. Some kits even allow you to use factory control arms.

If you want the some thing that is beefed up more than your average drag race K member check out the Maximum Motorsports K members and parts. Their road race k members are going to be some thing you may want to upgrade to.

I understand that, but I honestly don't think zack would feel much (if any) difference considering the car is really only going to be used on the street.

I don't think mine makes any noise, but honestly the car is so loud I can't tell :lmao:

 

[JeffsLightning]

Guess ill have to suck it up and just do the job..... on the floor.


Just bought a 200 dollar trans jack for this.... lol

I have one you could have borrowed.

 

[Zack]

I have one you could have borrowed.

I had a post up looking for one to borrow.

I appreciate it though!

 

[ChromeCobra]

IF I were you, I would just keep the 6speed in the car and not have to deal with this issue.

 

[Zack]

IF I were you, I would just keep the 6speed in the car and not have to deal with this issue.

Dealing with shifting is a bigger issue to me.

 

[JeffsLightning]

I had a post up looking for one to borrow.

I appreciate it though!

Sorry didn't see it. I'm just over the state line here in Crete.

 

[Zack]

Good news.
I just removed the JW bell from the trans and fit it on the engine. The header will need massaging as will the bell need.grinding.
Im pretty.sure.there is.enough room to.install the flexplate, re-attach the bell to the.trans and sneak the converter in.
Pray.

 

[FuelSlut]

Zack I wouldnt do the K member if youre never gonna really take apart the headers again. I did it only because I was kinda listening to someone, and cuz I was going to a complete coil over setup and it made sense. It was also so easy to do my longtubes. Mine is PA racing and it does not make any noises, but if I was doing it all over again Id opt out of it. Just my .02. Oh and if you do decide to do a K swap do a QA1 from what I hear and read it has the best street manners and is very durable.

 

[FuelSlut]

Dealing with shifting is a bigger issue to me.

To put this to rest all I have to say is N2MB WOT box. AMAZING.....but you are an aut guy so keep movin forward and none of the things youre going through are gonna matter in the end only that the car is going to be a beast and very consistant w the auto.

 

[FuelSlut]

Weight transfer of the body has nothing to do with the tires on it. And read up about sprung and un-sprung weight.

The weight loss on the front of the car and the extra room are huge pluses to doing a K member.



The K member itself should not make any noise unless it is flexing or just poorly built or designed.

The control arm choice can effect things some. A rubber or poly control arm bushing will be quieter than a rod end style of course.

And some people have issues with noise when they use coil overs. But there are kits that allow you to use coil mounts on the a arms. Some kits even allow you to use factory control arms.

If you want the some thing that is beefed up more than your average drag race K member check out the Maximum Motorsports K members and parts. Their road race k members are going to be some thing you may want to upgrade to.

Ill never go to the tubular a arms again. Derlin sucks! Im swapped back to factory a arm and strange coil over and what a difference. this made my headaches go away. MM k members are nice too.

 

[Maniak]

Ill never go to the tubular a arms again. Derlin sucks! Im swapped back to factory a arm and strange coil over and what a difference. this made my headaches go away. MM k members are nice too.

which kmember did you have? what about the derlin bushings didnt you like? was it the noise and harsh ride?

 

[FuelSlut]

which kmember did you have? what about the derlin bushings didnt you like? was it the noise and harsh ride?

PA racing K member its pretty nice but if I did it again Id go with MM or QA1. All derlin is a hard plastic and yes the noise was very loud and it was very harsh enough to make me take off the a arms!

 

[FUNDAD]

When I had my '03 I had Hans install an AJE racing kmember. I thought it was gonna be the shiznit. It had the coilovers that I thought too was gonna be billy badass.

It was noisy as fuck. Made a ton of racket and drove like shit. I lugged that fucken stock kmember back to Hans' shop and paid to have it swapped.

I imagine it has its benefits and I think the coils bending and grinding against the the threaded area was where the noise came from.....but at the end of the day I was happy as hell to have the noises and creaking go by by.

Good Luck.

 

[Bodyman]

Driving those MM's is what got you not wanting the Manual. Yes/No I myself Sold my 5spd Fox Body stangs after driving my 1st MM for about 6 months. Never want to go back to a stick. I would pass on the K and do as you are.