C&D Lightning Lap Results

[Mook]

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...c_cars/the_lightning_lap_2008_feature?cid=320

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[Bru]

Wow. This is from Virginia International Raceway, BTW.

 

[bluzohh6]

what about the new civic type r

 

[Mook]

we dont have that over here

 

[Mook]

# LL1: 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS
# LL1: 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT4
# LL1: 2008 Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0
# LL2: 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z51
# LL2: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V
# LL2: 2008 BMW M3
# LL2: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG
# LL2: 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
# LL2: 2008 BMW 135i
# LL2: 2008 Lexus IS F
# LL2: 2008 Audi S5
# LL2: 2008 Honda S2000 CR
# LL2: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
# LL2: 2008 Lotus Elise SC
# LL2: 2008 Infiniti G37 Sport
# LL2: 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
# LL2: 2008 Volkswagen R32
# LL2: 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si
# LL3: 2009 Nissan GT-R
# LL3: 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
# LL5: 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
# LL5: 2008 Mosler MT900S

 

[bluzohh6]

I heard it was coming?

 

[Poopshinanigans]

Cobalt beat the EVO? oh dear.

 

[Dasfinc]

# LL1: 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS
# LL1: 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT4
# LL1: 2008 Volvo C30 T5 Version 2.0
# LL2: 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z51
# LL2: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V
# LL2: 2008 BMW M3
# LL2: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG
# LL2: 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
# LL2: 2008 BMW 135i
# LL2: 2008 Lexus IS F
# LL2: 2008 Audi S5
# LL2: 2008 Honda S2000 CR
# LL2: 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
# LL2: 2008 Lotus Elise SC
# LL2: 2008 Infiniti G37 Sport
# LL2: 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
# LL2: 2008 Volkswagen R32
# LL2: 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si
# LL3: 2009 Nissan GT-R
# LL3: 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
# LL5: 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
# LL5: 2008 Mosler MT900S

how are the classes broken down? I don't understand why the civic is competing against Lotus Elises and an Audi S5...?

 

[Bru]

LL1 and LL2 are the price ranges

 

[Dasfinc]

Why didn't they have a regular SI compete? the Mugen is a POS for 30 grand.

 

[Poopshinanigans]

Caliber is 7 sec behind the SS. PVO dropped the ball on that one.

 

[Bru]

LL1 = under 30,000
LL2 = 30,000 to 60,000
LL3 = 60-120,000
LL5 = over 240,000

There doesn't appear to be any LL4 cars

 

[Dasfinc]

hold the phone, the Mugen I thought was MSRP at like 28 or 29, not above 30K, what the gay?

I beat a 04 'minivan' civic SI could get a better laptime than the Mugen.

 

[Bru]

Mugen was 29,500 or something, and with destination charges it was over $30,000. I wrote about it last year and I couldn't stop thinking to myself, "A $30,000 Civic? Jesus"

 

[Dasfinc]

I'm kinda surprised the SRT-8 is only a second behind the S2000 CR

 

[sickmint79]

cobalt time surprising

 

[Shibby50]

Cobalt beat the EVO? oh dear.

X2

 

[IDAFC21]

god that challenger is gargantuan but oh so sexy

 

[Yaj Yak]

holy cobalt batman.

 

[Stink Star]

the 135 smoked the IS-F hahahah!

that mugen RR would have been pretty high on the list as well

 

[Turk]

the 135 smoked the IS-F hahahah!

that mugen RR would have been pretty high on the list as well

Yeah, but lost to the cobalt. =( It is surprising that the ISF is so bad, wtf??? Virtually same weight and power as the M3.

 

[Poopshinanigans]

It is surprising that the ISF is so bad, wtf??? Virtually same weight and power as the M3.

I'm not really surprised, on one hand you have the M3 which has been developed over how many years? 20+? Then you have the first time shot of Lexus. And i fucking hat the IS-Fs tail pipes, eewww.

 

[Stink Star]

Yeah, but lost to the cobalt. =( It is surprising that the ISF is so bad, wtf??? Virtually same weight and power as the M3.

honestly, performance wise the coblat SS turbo is no joke.... its just the awful interior that is the real killer of that car... then agail have you ever been inside a 135i? that makes a cobalt not look so bad....

 

[Turk]

honestly, performance wise the coblat SS turbo is no joke.... its just the awful interior that is the real killer of that car... then agail have you ever been inside a 135i? that makes a cobalt not look so bad....

Only glanced at 135s from the outside.

 

[Poopshinanigans]

honestly, performance wise the coblat SS turbo is no joke.... its just the awful interior that is the real killer of that car... then agail have you ever been inside a 135i? that makes a cobalt not look so bad....

If where you sit is comfortable and everything around you is, i dont see the problem. There are cars that you do tradeoffs for to get a lower price. But nothing beats a great value.