Harmonic balancer removal help needed (97 GTP)

[Diavolo]

I was removing my harmonic balancer today and was using the autozone pulley remover with some 1/4 28tpi bolts. Every thing bolted up fine. I started to ratchet in the big bolt that goes through the center and removes the pulley. I was using the pointed metal tip that comes with the remover kit and it went through my balancer. Am I fucked on getting this off? I really need my car by next weekend.

Has anyone had this happen to them? Any suggestions? If anyone could come out and help this week I will pay $$$$? I am sort of desperate at this point.

TIA

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[Bob Kazamakis]

its been a while but i think i put a small allen bolt in the hole that fit inside the balancer but the head didnt fit into the hole. that way it pushes of the crank.

 

[02BlueGT]

You need a very small piece to fit in the balancer, a normal size one you are trying to pull the balancer off itself, I had to buy the 3800 specific one from ZZP

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

you could probably use a piece of round stock too.

 

[02BlueGT]

you could probably use a piece of round stock too.

Or a small bolt

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

thats what i used.

 

[02BlueGT]

thats what i used.

I took the easy way out, I wanted a puller anyway, and the ZZP specific set is only like $8 more

 

[RebelGTP]

FUCK! Mine is Fucking Cracked!

 

[syP]

welcome to diavolos world.... its been a while since ive done this.. and IIRC bikrboy did it to his own car when i did his cam... so i dont really remember.

 

[02BlueGT]

FUCK! Mine is Fucking Cracked!

You cracked the balancer?

 

[Fish]

FWIW, I have a couple L67 balancers if you guys need them.

 

[syP]

doh...

Mike.. did you get it super dirty? or even take it out of the box?

you are more than welcome to retrun it...

 

[Diavolo]

So this is now stuck in my balancer. Fucked?

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

that is not stuck in the balancer....it's wedged into the threads in the crank snout

 

[Diavolo]

that is not stuck in the balancer....it's wedged into the threads in the crank snout

that sounds MUCH worse.

 

[syP]

ya for demod now... :/

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

can you wedge anything in there to work it out? is it steel?

 

[Diavolo]

yeah it is steel, I tried a screw driver and the center bolt for the puller. No luck.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

wait its threaded?

 

[RebelGTP]

You cracked the balancer?

yep, don't know how, but it is covered under my warranty... FUCK YES!

 

[Diavolo]

If it did mess up the threads, what are my options?
If it didn't mess up the threads, what are my options?

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

Hey, you posted in http://www.thechicagogarage.org/foru...ad.php?t=36311 and I know you now a lot about engines etc.

Do you have any suggestions for me? My brother (syp) is basically telling me there is nothing I can do. I really don't want to have to scrap the car because I messed up some threads. Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks
-Michael
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all is not lost

get a 5/16ths drill bit 3/8ths coarse tap a slidehammer and 3/8ths bolt of the correct length and a dremel and stone/carbide bit

drill center of puller nose
tap center of puller nose
insert bolt
use slidehammer to remove non oem component

if using a comonly sourced (rental type) puller i find it's best to leave that cap off and thread the OEM crank bolt into the crank till it's ~1/4inch from balancer face using the puller centerbolt without the nose thread the three puller bolts into the balancer and remove till it just touches the balancer bolt, loosen the puller bolt 1/4 inch and loosen the crank bolt similarly, repeat till balancer slips off

once removed, mask the cover/crank snout completly
grind first 1-3 threads with visual damage testing with OEM crank bolt

???
profit

 

[Diavolo]

all is not lost

get a 5/16ths drill bit 3/8ths coarse tap a slidehammer and 3/8ths bolt of the correct length and a dremel and stone/carbide bit

drill center of puller nose
tap center of puller nose
insert bolt
use slidehammer to remove non oem component

if using a comonly sourced (rental type) puller i find it's best to leave that cap off and thread the OEM crank bolt into the crank till it's ~1/4inch from balancer face using the puller centerbolt without the nose thread the three puller bolts into the balancer and remove till it just touches the balancer bolt, loosen the puller bolt 1/4 inch and loosen the crank bolt similarly, repeat till balancer slips off

once removed, mask the cover/crank snout completly
grind first 1-3 threads with visual damage testing with OEM crank bolt

???
profit

I can change a tire.

 

[Eagle]

Most cranks aren't threaded right @ the end of the snout anyways... Just get that tip outta there and see what the damage is. If'n you're lucky nothing will be messed up @ all.

You might have expanded the snout of the crank with the wedged puller tip... who knows tho. Get it out and see whats up.

 

[Diavolo]

Well, I did it. Thanks for the advice. In the process, I am sure I fucked my engine even worse