Emissions: Turbo Miata w/stand alone

[Bru]

I have a colleague with a 2000 (I think) Mazda Miata and Flyin' Miata's 1999-00 FM II Hydra turbo system. It's running the Hydra Nemesis (stand alone I believe) and obviously isn't going to pass emissions because the system doesn't output OBD codes.

What I'm wondering is does anyone have experience with that management system or Miatas in general and could advise on what he could do to pass Illinois emissions? Will putting the stock PCM, MAF and injectors back in be enough to safely drive the car to emissions and pass?

Or should he bypass the turbo somehow and go NA for emissions?

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[Stink Star]

Register the car to a PO box in a city without emissions.

Even with swapping back to the original ECM you not only need to be code free, you also need to pass the flags for things like EGR and HO2S performance. It sounds like with this setup it's never gonna happen. The best solution may be to prove the car cannot meet emissions and get one of those racecar exemptions (somebody here I think posted instructions on how to do this)

 

[RICH17]

I'd look at doing what [MENTION=19]Kay Jay[/MENTION] did and register is Wisconsin

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

Register the car to a PO box in a city without emissions.

Even with swapping back to the original ECM you not only need to be code free, you also need to pass the flags for things like EGR and HO2S performance. It sounds like with this setup it's never gonna happen. The best solution may be to prove the car cannot meet emissions and get one of those racecar exemptions (somebody here I think posted instructions on how to do this)

Apply for Show Car / Race Car insurance (I have state farm, its agreed value as well).

once you have that, get an affidavit from the EPA, fill it out, send it in with a copy of your insurance policy.

http://www.epa.state.il.us/air/vim/pdf/show-car.pdf

Should exempt you. Keep in mind its "to show, to mechanic, to race track" type. Drive it to work and a Cop calls you out on it you'll still get an emissions ticket.

The affidavit is the easy part. Finding an insurance policy you can live with is the hard part.

 

[Bru]

Does it still include traditional on-road collision and liability coverage?

 

[HILROD]

Apply for Show Car / Race Car insurance (I have state farm, its agreed value as well).

once you have that, get an affidavit from the EPA, fill it out, send it in with a copy of your insurance policy.

http://www.epa.state.il.us/air/vim/pdf/show-car.pdf

Should exempt you. Keep in mind its "to show, to mechanic, to race track" type. Drive it to work and a Cop calls you out on it you'll still get an emissions ticket.

The affidavit is the easy part. Finding an insurance policy you can live with is the hard part.

This. It only needs to be insured. I've never had them check what kind. There are a few places that allow unlimited mileage.

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

Does it still include traditional on-road collision and liability coverage?

Yes. Comp, and coll. there is a mileage limit, but my ins. Comp. has. Never asked for the mileage.

My car is fully insured, mods included.

 

[syP]

just claim it as a race car...

just did that with the cobra..

good for 2 years

 

[Yaj Yak]

I'd look at doing what [MENTION=19]Kay Jay[/MENTION] did and register is Wisconsin

this is easy for a grand prix cuz there is not a snowballs chance in hell it would get RACECAR approved in this state

 

[Bru]

 

[Donnie]

More or less what we've done in the past, is what you suggested. Put all of the Emissions equipment back, stock injectors, reset and return control to the stock PCM, pull the WG spring or pull a coupler off the charge piping and get a full drive cycle in.

 

[SRT41320]

register in a county with no emissions... don't have to worry about anything!

 

[EmersonHart13]

I was gonna say move. I wouldn't want a car like that in an area like this.

 

[DOC-Z]

Apply for Show Car / Race Car insurance (I have state farm, its agreed value as well).

once you have that, get an affidavit from the EPA, fill it out, send it in with a copy of your insurance policy.

http://www.epa.state.il.us/air/vim/pdf/show-car.pdf

Should exempt you. Keep in mind its "to show, to mechanic, to race track" type. Drive it to work and a Cop calls you out on it you'll still get an emissions ticket.

The affidavit is the easy part. Finding an insurance policy you can live with is the hard part.

I'm not sure if I can post it here (the name of the company I've had with my "collector car" policy, as it may be in conflict with a sponsor), but there are policies in which you can get a good quote with full coverage for collector car, race and pleasure vehicle insurance.

P.M. me if you want to know who I'm talking about...


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More or less what we've done in the past, is what you suggested. Put all of the Emissions equipment back, stock injectors, reset and return control to the stock PCM, pull the WG spring or pull a coupler off the charge piping and get a full drive cycle in.

This x10000.

It's not that much extra work and you don't have to go about all the BS trying to get it registered as a race-car. Flyingmiata guys do that because the kit doesn't require you to give up all of your emissions stuff just to put the kit on.