đź“° Auto News Toyota Supra rumors continue with 400-hp hybrid power
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They already have a car for that, it's called the LFA.
at or near the 400 mark, I'd imagine they are aiming for something above the Scion FR-s (obviously), to fight with the likes of the Mustang GT, Camaro SS, WRX, and the new Evo eventually (which is rumored to also be hybrid).
Yes. The GTR is a Showcase of technology and power, as is the Viper and Z06/ZR1 Vettes. They are cars that show "What the car maker can do". Yes, the technology in the Vette and even viper isn't super advanced, but they still crack off crazy fast time on race tracks to make a point of "What they are able to do"
The LFA is no different, it is/was a Halo car.
The same argument can be had with the M3 Vs. a Mustang GT. A car with similar performance numbers and twice the price, but the car with twice the price is far more exclusive, and isn't really targeted for the same buyers.
The market segment that Toyota would be attacking (and already are with the FR-S) is the entry level sports car market. They have made it fairly clear that they don't plan on putting a turbo in the FRS at this time, which especially leaves the window open for a 400hp 'Supra' to be built to combat things like I already listed off.
Back in the early/mid 90's it was, both were 300hp 2 door coupes
.The LS motors entered F-bodies and vettes right as the Supra was discontinued. *edit*
TT Supra's were in the high 30s back in the mid 90's.
Just happy Toyota is finally throwing something into the ring. You know it is bad when the sportiest cars they made were their Lexus IS300 or GS400's for a while there. The Z has been out for so long and the RX8 has already come and gone along with the S2000. Just a bad time to try and sell sports cars right now.
They were all GT sports cars at the time. I used to have a link to a magazine pdf where they compared 300zx, Mk4 supra, 3000gt, RX-7 and I thought a Corvette. Corvette was outclassed until they bumped up the hp in later years I thought.
I think the lightest was the RX-7 and the heaviest was either the Supra or the 3000gt. All in the 30-40k range. Only reason they all went away was the prices kept on getting higher and higher and Americans were shifting to SUV's etc. I mean my Z was about 33k MSRP in 1990 which is pretty high when put in todays money. Supra prices have just stayed super high as they made/sold a lot less than most of the other ones.
They were all GT sports cars at the time. I used to have a link to a magazine pdf where they compared 300zx, Mk4 supra, 3000gt, RX-7 and I thought a Corvette. Corvette was outclassed until they bumped up the hp in later years I thought.
I think the lightest was the RX-7 and the heaviest was either the Supra or the 3000gt. All in the 30-40k range. Only reason they all went away was the prices kept on getting higher and higher and Americans were shifting to SUV's etc. I mean my Z was about 33k MSRP in 1990 which is pretty high when put in todays money. Supra prices have just stayed super high as they made/sold a lot less than most of the other ones.
This is sounding worse and worse. Sure, go with hybrid, but don't do it AWD, and make sure that V6 is packing a serious punch. Borrow an ecoboost from Ford or something for crying out loud.
I've always thought that they need to make use of the outlandish amount of time and money they put into the LF-A and build a marketable "godzilla" fighter on that platform. They're never going to make money on the LF-A and they already have the tooling in place to produce them, so why not make use of it???
Edit: and fuck CVT. So boring. The concept of constantly being at your powerband peak is enticing, but the CVTs are NEVER programmed that way.
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return of the 3000GT!
Edit 3: That concept is hideous. Car's don't get much more sexy than the MK4 Supra.
I've always thought that they need to make use of the outlandish amount of time and money they put into the LF-A and build a marketable "godzilla" fighter on that platform. They're never going to make money on the LF-A and they already have the tooling in place to produce them, so why not make use of it???
Edit: and fuck CVT. So boring. The concept of constantly being at your powerband peak is enticing, but the CVTs are NEVER programmed that way.
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return of the 3000GT!Edit 3: That concept is hideous. Car's don't get much more sexy than the MK4 Supra.
This is sounding worse and worse.
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Edit 3: That concept is hideous. Car's don't get much more sexy than the MK4 Supra.
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