📰 Auto News M3 wins again......

[Turk]

I'm not sure if it has lost a comparo yet... This time, the 3 year old M3 is pitted against the brand new CTS-V coupe and brand new RS-5...and still wins the comparo!!! Also won the same comparo in car and driver.

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[SHOmuff]

 

[Wolfman]

wow, there are some BMW nutswingers doing these comparisons. i don't know HOW it beat the CTS-V. that thing is a sedan masterpiece

 

[KAR]

wow, there are some BMW nutswingers doing these comparisons. i don't know HOW it beat the CTS-V. that thing is a sedan masterpiece

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[jason05gt]

I cannot take a review by a man with a mullet seriously!!

 

[EmersonHart13]

and

 

[Turk]

It's hard to explain, but when driving something like a BMW or a Porsche, it feels as though you are much more connected to the car than driving other cars, especially American cars. To put it in perspective, 2 brothers went auto crossing this weekend, one has an 11.1 second c5 z06, very fast, the other has a stock 2000 m5, 4200lbs and only 400 hp. Guess which one was faster around the autoX.

 

[Turk]

I cannot take a review by a man with a mullet seriously!!

Coming from the guy driving a Mustang.

 

[jason05gt]

Coming from the guy driving a Mustang.

Did you read that the 2012 Boss is faster around a road course than a M3?

 

[jason05gt]

It's hard to explain, but when driving something like a BMW or a Porsche, it feels as though you are much more connected to the car than driving other cars, especially American cars. To put it in perspective, 2 brothers went auto crossing this weekend, one has an 11.1 second c5 z06, very fast, the other has a stock 2000 m5, 4200lbs and only 400 hp. Guess which one was faster around the autoX.

I do agree that German cars have a better “feel” and connection to the road.

As for the M5 beating a Z06, that’s all driver my friend and NOT the vehicle.

 

[Turk]

I do agree that German cars have a better “feel” and connection to the road.

As for the M5 beating a Z06, that’s all driver my friend and NOT the vehicle.

The guy driving the M5 has NEVER done an auto cross event or road racing event, the guy driving the z06 has gone to road america NUMEROUS times. So thanks for your input...IDIOT! BTW, I'm going to probably do an autoX event in September if you're down, I'd like to see what your road racing mustang could do....

 

[Riski]

Rick vs Jason.....DO IT

 

[Turk]

Haha, let's do this Jason.... You always claim your car isnt' a drag car and that it's made for handling, well same for my M3.... So let's see what happens....

 

[jason05gt]

The guy driving the M5 has NEVER done an auto cross event or road racing event, the guy driving the z06 has gone to road america NUMEROUS times. So thanks for your input...IDIOT! BTW, I'm going to probably do an autoX event in September if you're done, I'd like to see what your road racing mustang could do....

So you believe a C5 Z06 is slower around an autocross course than a 4,000 lbs luxury sedan? Geez, can I sell you some Lakefront property in Naperville?

When do you want to go?

Here watch some video:
http://www.stranoparts.com/videos.php

 

[Turk]

Haha, I know the z06 is faster. I've heard that vettes are very hard to drive around a race course though. Um, I think it was september 12th or something, at the Sears center.

 

[Riski]

Road coarse and drag strip race......DO IT

 

[Turk]

We've already raced in a straight line... I got walked.

 

[Riski]

From a dig?

 

[Turk]

No, from my weak spot 60mph =( But he's got a hell of a lot more power than me.

 

[Riski]

I say from a dead stop......

 

[gnxs]

I'm not sure if it has lost a comparo yet... This time, the 3 year old M3 is pitted against the brand new CTS-V coupe and brand new RS-5...and still wins the comparo!!! Also won the same comparo in car and driver.

Unfortunately for the "V", the auto trans with stock factory tuning is really a detriment compared to the excellent units in the BMW and Audi and really hurt the "V" in both those comparisons (in both objective and subjective categories).

Here's another comparison (manual 6-speed cars):

http://www.insideline.com/cadillac/...adillac-cts-v-coupe-vs-2011-bmw-m3-coupe.html

We can always try this comparo out in the real world if you like.

 

[gnxs]

It's hard to explain, but when driving something like a BMW or a Porsche, it feels as though you are much more connected to the car than driving other cars, especially American cars. To put it in perspective, 2 brothers went auto crossing this weekend, one has an 11.1 second c5 z06, very fast, the other has a stock 2000 m5, 4200lbs and only 400 hp. Guess which one was faster around the autoX.

The better driver most likely.

EDIT: I just read your follow-up post and I still say the driver of the Z06 is incompetent unless he sacrificed (i.e. removed) alot of the things that makes that car handle in order to get that 11.1 timeslip.

 

[gnxs]

Road coarse and drag strip race......DO IT

I'm in. We can redo this test for real.

 

[Angus]

I would rather have the Audi.

 

[jason05gt]

Haha, I know the z06 is faster. I've heard that vettes are very hard to drive around a race course though. Um, I think it was september 12th or something, at the Sears center.

It's it's 9/12, I can attend. Let me know and I will show you some Rustang tail lights around the cones.