3800 911 Loose Change Video 2nd Edition
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Yeah its a great movie I learned alot. But one question, if this never happend where did all the people go that supposly died on the planes that crashed into the WTC go? I remember in the video it said flight 93 never crashed at all, it landed in Ohio and everyone was evacuated off the plane. Where did those people go? Did the goverment kill them?
GOVERMENT COVER UP.....i believe sum of it like that parts of the plane should of been recovered from the pentagon... i think the goverment shot a cruise missle into it,Also i belive that jet fuels and that plane hitting the towers didnt bring it down i belive the thery of demolition charges!!!!!
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Ok. We have had this discusion before on these boards about this movie IIRC.
http://www.ilgpc.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=5033&hl=
How many civillians have heard a missle?? Not from Top Gun or any other movie. A real life missle?? Im gonna have to say no one. Now I want someone to drive their car at 500+MPH into a concrete reinforced steel/concrete wall and we will tell you what is left. Nothing.
Now onto the towers. Demolition charges?? Come on now. Im ASSuming that there has to be some form of gas inside the building in order to heat it. When a building is collapsing, that puts a little bit of pressure on things. The inside was still on fire. Building goes down, fire goes down. Also, you have to remember that some of the explosion went down the elevator shafts. I blame the media for putting ideas into peoples heads when they had no clue what was going on besides the towers falling.
That video is a joke and I think the creator of it should be shot. However, since we are the land of the free, he has the right to make that movie. Which is fine. I just wish people would stop bitching about not having rights when they have the right to bitch about it. :angry:
*patiently awaits Mikes post* B)
Another edit. I didnt know there was extra bullshit added. Guess I have to watch it again.
I believe the plane really hit the pentagon. thats not just a normal everyday store or house its crashing into..its a concrete fort. The main reason you dont hear anything or see what little parts are left...its the fact its a government site, gov't land. The media couldnt get up super close and personal like the could with the one in pennslyvania or any other crash over public land.
Now...the plane in pennsylvania...that one Im 50/50 one...I wouldnt be suprised if they did shoot it down and never said due to public outlash, no matter what happened. People would still be upset no matter what that planes target or intent was.
and as far as the gov't blowing up the towers and it all being set up. Do you know how many people would have to be involved on the inside?? Think about it.. Not just your political ppl, but the ones who placed the explosvies, prepped the planes on the bases etc...its just not possibly that it happened without there being a leak at this point.
and I am not a Bush supporter fyi...i just dont think 9/11 was a setup of any sorts.
Some more food for thought. VIA this calculator here, a plane moving 500MPH is moving at 733 square feet per second. That is 2 and 1/3 foot ball fields per SECOND. How are you going to positivly identify a missle from an airplane?? A fighter jet from a commercial jet?? Its gonna look like a fucking blur, if you even see that.
Lets also not forget that this was made by 3 college students. You know. The same ones that take time off of school to protest with all their hippy friends down LSD every fucking year and get arrested for violence when they are promoting peace. :lolsign:
Lets also not forget that this was made by 3 college students. You know. The same ones that take time off of school to protest with all their hippy friends down LSD every fucking year and get arrested for violence when they are promoting peace. :lolsign:
Plane meet thick concrete wall.....wall meet 500mph plane:
http://www.gturbop.com/Hosting/planevsconcretewall.avi
Its too late for me to go through that rant again.
...everyone can read the other post for my opinion. Im not even going to look at that video again. Ive seen better made porns....
Mike
http://www.gturbop.com/Hosting/planevsconcretewall.avi
Its too late for me to go through that rant again.
...everyone can read the other post for my opinion. Im not even going to look at that video again. Ive seen better made porns.... Mike
Originally posted by 98 TGP TOY@Apr 7 2006, 12:50 AM
Plane meet thick concrete wall.....wall meet 500mph plane:
http://www.gturbop.com/Hosting/planevsconcretewall.avi
Its too late for me to go through that rant again.
Mike
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plane @ oowned
here we go again
the dynamic closed minded duo returns with all their first hand knowledge of plane crashes and real world events.
I really love to see how you guys rationalize things it entertains me
not saying everything in it is true or false, becuase theres no way of actually knowing, but you guys are so sure about things you have no idea about and for some reason extrmely angry that anyone would dare disturb your perfect little veiw of our world.
the dynamic closed minded duo returns with all their first hand knowledge of plane crashes and real world events.
I really love to see how you guys rationalize things it entertains me
not saying everything in it is true or false, becuase theres no way of actually knowing, but you guys are so sure about things you have no idea about and for some reason extrmely angry that anyone would dare disturb your perfect little veiw of our world.
Under the assumption that Kyle's post is directed towards me:
I am extremely confident in what I am saying about the accidents. Any logical person knows you cant compare crashes of planes in fields, to a crash of a plane into a building. The only good way to compare a commercial airliner crashing into a 30' concrete wall at 550 mph, is to run a plane into a thick wall of concrete at a high rate of speed. Which is why I provided that video.
Once you see that simple logic, you understand that the creators of the movie have little to no understanding of how the world works. I have been through 4 years of an engineering program with physics, mechanical design, experimentation, static/dynamic analysis, etc. Do I know everything?.....not even close. But I know what too look for with the claims that video made.
If you disagree with me, then I would like to know on what points. I am always up for criticizm....but its childish to just say someone is wrong, without giving a reason.
Mike
I am extremely confident in what I am saying about the accidents. Any logical person knows you cant compare crashes of planes in fields, to a crash of a plane into a building. The only good way to compare a commercial airliner crashing into a 30' concrete wall at 550 mph, is to run a plane into a thick wall of concrete at a high rate of speed. Which is why I provided that video.
Once you see that simple logic, you understand that the creators of the movie have little to no understanding of how the world works. I have been through 4 years of an engineering program with physics, mechanical design, experimentation, static/dynamic analysis, etc. Do I know everything?.....not even close. But I know what too look for with the claims that video made.
If you disagree with me, then I would like to know on what points. I am always up for criticizm....but its childish to just say someone is wrong, without giving a reason.
Mike
food for thought I'm not sure if this was in the video as I didn't watch it I've watched enough of these.
if you calculate the angel of approach by the hole that was made in the pentagon a 747 would have had to been flying 2 feet above the ground for some 1,200 feet.
the hole that was made in the pentagon is smaller then the fuelsalage of a 747 there's no way it would fit.. do you know what it is the size of? a cruise missle.
oil is the reason why we're in iraq the world will be depleted in about 20/30 years accroding to scientists america is insuring it has oil until it's completely depleted.
when I say depleted I mean all the oil we can get to will be gone.. there's still a ton but it's not possible to drill that deep you start running into very very hard rock.
but fear not I'm sure we won't be switching energy sources anytime soon.. genetic engineering is leading the way with plants that produce oil.
if you calculate the angel of approach by the hole that was made in the pentagon a 747 would have had to been flying 2 feet above the ground for some 1,200 feet.
the hole that was made in the pentagon is smaller then the fuelsalage of a 747 there's no way it would fit.. do you know what it is the size of? a cruise missle.
oil is the reason why we're in iraq the world will be depleted in about 20/30 years accroding to scientists america is insuring it has oil until it's completely depleted.
when I say depleted I mean all the oil we can get to will be gone.. there's still a ton but it's not possible to drill that deep you start running into very very hard rock.
but fear not I'm sure we won't be switching energy sources anytime soon.. genetic engineering is leading the way with plants that produce oil.
This is under the horrible assumption, that the fuselage actually stayed together...in one peice. As you can see from the video fish just reposted, the plane disinegrates when it hits the wall. The brunt of the force is going to be right in the center of the fuselage, so that may be the most damaged part of the wall. But the whole fuselage isnt going to stay together and punch a hole through a 30 foot wall.
Simple example to help explain the plane crash scenes. If you take a snow ball and pact it up really tight, and then throw it and it hits nothing except the ground. There is a good chance that snow ball stayed intact....dont you remeber when you were young, you could use those snow balls that missed you against the person who threw it?
. Now take another well packed snow ball and chuck it agains a wall. The thing disinegrates, except from a small compact chunk thats right in the center of the area were the snow ball hit. All the force was applied there and the rest of the snowball fell to pieces.For the plane, the main force was applied to a smaller center section, while the outside sections of the fuselage crushed up and flew off into tiny peices.
How come we havent taken any yet then? Or are we packing it up in our planes and boats and bringing it back over here secretly, without anyone else in the world noticing?
How did you calculate that? The plane wasnt landing into the pentagon. It was divebombing into the pentagon. I have even talked about this with my pilot friend, and he confirmed that you wouldnt have to cruise for 1200 feet at 2 feet to hit the building. They could have easily come down on it in a 10-30 degree angle when they hit. Which would destroy the plane even more, because it would be hitting the concrete and solid ground.
Mike
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