3800 what do i need to run 12.999999999

[phat_ridegt]

alright, first my goal was 13.9999 now its 12's. have ssic, james dean dp, stock cat, 3" cat-back, dhp, cai, 3.2/3.0 pulley w/ 0 kr. with that i ran 13.71 @101 but i am going to 66 next month and should run 13.5. so with that in mind.....


i want a cam, either VS or XP....car is a daily driver, but not abused everyday...i know when i do the cam i will do the whole valvetrain basically, but will just a VS cam w/ rockers drop a 1/2 a second or would i need to do the XP w/ like 1.6's? i was thinking VS cam, 1.6 rockers springs ect....w/ 3.0 pulley and 0 kr along with a 1.90 60' would be good for a 12.99999 pass? can anyone shed some light on the situation?

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[Kyle]

VS with supporting mods plus headers and you'd be in 12s VERY easily.

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

With PEM's, get the VSX cam or put 1.7's on the exhaust for a VS for max performance.

 

[phat_ridegt]

Originally posted by Kyle@Oct 3 2005, 08:15 PM
VS with supporting mods plus headers and you'd be in 12s VERY easily.

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what supporting mods? you mean 105s ect?

 

[phat_ridegt]

Originally posted by Ron Vogel@Oct 3 2005, 08:17 PM
With PEM's, get the VSX cam or put 1.7's on the exhaust for a VS for max performance.

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whats the vsx? by zzp? and you mean only changing the rockers on the exhaust valves?

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by phat_ridegt+Oct 3 2005, 09:22 PM-->

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@Oct 3 2005, 08:17 PM
With PEM's, get the VSX cam or put 1.7's on the exhaust for a VS for max performance.

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whats the vsx? by zzp? and you mean only changing the rockers on the exhaust valves?

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u might need even less then that i mean i ran a 13.6 witha 1.9 and all i had was a 3.25 pully a intake plugs anda cat back, witha stock pcm, and rsa tires just practice driving with ur mods u should be lower then a 13.7, is yours a 4 door

and i hate ot break it to u but 66 has been closed for two weeks to the generl public(last test and tune) nhra ran this week end but thats it for this year, i know it sucks, but be carful mentioning 66 people trash talk that place alot , but next spring is gonna be fun there, at the beging of the season they do sat. test and tunes, not just tues,and wed

 

[phat_ridegt]

oh i didnt know that. then i will have to go to byron then. the first time i EVER went to 66 was this past saturday for nationals and i am so impressed with the set-up. with the mods i have, stock tires and race gas i was running 2.00 60's all day. but yeah its 4 dr, plus i am 275 lbs. so i have to take that into consideration....i have 104 plugs, i didnt really wanna drop down anymore than that...anyone think i will need to?

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by phat_ridegt@Oct 3 2005, 09:42 PM
oh i didnt know that.  then i will have to go to byron then.  the first time i EVER went to 66 was this past saturday for nationals and i am so impressed with the set-up.  with the mods i have, stock tires and race gas i was running 2.00 60's all day.  but yeah its 4 dr, plus i am 275 lbs.  so i have to take that into consideration....i have 104 plugs, i didnt really wanna drop down anymore than that...anyone think i will need to?

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i dont know about 104's but i use ngk tr6's (2 stages colder)gapped at 54, and it helped me alot, do u strip ur interior out, cause ona 4 door u need all the help u can get, well its a slight disadvantage anyway, the front seati easy,and i know the rear on the coupe pops right out,and do u pull the trac fuse, the button only does so much, and whats ur front and rear tire pressure?

 

[itlnrob]

stock ls1 with nittos

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by itlnrob@Oct 3 2005, 10:58 PM
stock ls1 with nittos

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yet u still post ona a grand prix forum .... very intresting..

or wait why dont we go on the geo metro forum and say were faster in stock form thats a plan guys lets all go there fuck this club lol

 

[itlnrob]

Originally posted by sinr247+Oct 3 2005, 10:03 PM-->

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@Oct 3 2005, 10:58 PM
stock ls1 with nittos

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yet u still post ona a grand prix forum .... very intresting..

or wait why dont we go on the geo metro forum and say were faster in stock form thats a plan guys lets all go there fuck this club lol

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hey smarty i have a grand prix too..........its the green car in my sig. it has 3 letters on the door to....GTP.

THanks

 

[phat_ridegt]

i had about 16-18 psi in front and about 50 psi in rear, no the only weight reduction i have done is spare tire/jack...andpulling the trac fuse? never heard of it? what will that do?

 

[syP]

Originally posted by itlnrob+Oct 4 2005, 05:22 PM-->

Originally posted by sinr247@Oct 3 2005, 10:03 PM
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@Oct 3 2005, 10:58 PM
stock ls1 with nittos

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yet u still post ona a grand prix forum .... very intresting..

or wait why dont we go on the geo metro forum and say were faster in stock form thats a plan guys lets all go there fuck this club lol

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hey smarty i have a grand prix too..........its the green car in my sig. it has 3 letters on the door to....GTP.

THanks

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wned:

 

[itlnrob]

Originally posted by syP+Oct 4 2005, 08:01 PM-->

Originally posted by itlnrob@Oct 4 2005, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by sinr247@Oct 3 2005, 10:03 PM
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@Oct 3 2005, 10:58 PM
stock ls1 with nittos

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yet u still post ona a grand prix forum .... very intresting..

or wait why dont we go on the geo metro forum and say were faster in stock form thats a plan guys lets all go there fuck this club lol

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hey smarty i have a grand prix too..........its the green car in my sig. it has 3 letters on the door to....GTP.

THanks

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wned:

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what up ryan? Some people just can't take a joke.

 

[horist]

hmmm....

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by horist@Oct 5 2005, 12:59 AM
hmmm....

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many people say the trac button itself doenst turn off the timing removal involved with the trac system, pulling the fuse i guess removes the whole system(not physicly)and it turns off the abs, so no power steering , i dont seem to mind the abs not being there

 

[phat_ridegt]

really i will have to try that when i go to the track next week....

 

[phat_ridegt]

TTT

alright well i have some cash to spend...what are the first items i should invest in? anyone have any ideas?

 

[1quick]

a pimped out buick regal just kidding

honestly 1.9 rockers, pem's, that better intercooler pump, heads, any of those would be a good next step for you


brett

brett

 

[Royalgtp]

Originally posted by sinr247+Oct 5 2005, 09:53 PM-->

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@Oct 5 2005, 12:59 AM
hmmm....

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many people say the trac button itself doenst turn off the timing removal involved with the trac system, pulling the fuse i guess removes the whole system(not physicly)and it turns off the abs, so no power steering , i dont seem to mind the abs not being there

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No power steering, ay>?

 

[CoolGTX]

I just push the button, works for me.

 

[BumpinGTP]

many people say the trac button itself doenst turn off the timing removal involved with the trac system, pulling the fuse i guess removes the whole system(not physicly)and it turns off the abs, so no power steering , i dont seem to mind the abs not being there

Power steering is still activated, the 'magna-steer' is what is disabled, most people wouldnt even notice it.

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by CoolGTX@Oct 18 2005, 04:30 PM
I just push the button, works for me.

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my system pulls timing still ,with the button on i noticed 2 degrees of timing pulled but i guess other variables come to play i was testing this back to back and iat's might of changed it cant hurt except for the arm exercise u get turnign with it pulled, i guess the abs system pulls it just so it wont harm the system, thats why u pull the fuse, noticed no problems with abs when i put it back in

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by sinr247+Oct 18 2005, 06:14 PM-->

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@Oct 18 2005, 04:30 PM
I just push the button, works for me.

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my system pulls timing still ,with the button on i noticed 2 degrees of timing pulled but i guess other variables come to play i was testing this back to back and iat's might of changed it cant hurt except for the arm exercise u get turnign with it pulled, i guess the abs system pulls it just so it wont harm the system, thats why u pull the fuse, noticed no problems with abs when i put it back in

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i notice the differnce wiht out the magna steer, feels like im driving my old work pickup without power steering

 

[phat_ridegt]

i looked for the fuse....but which one is it? i didnt see it.....