C&D Lightning Lap: 2017 Camaro 1LE vs 2016 Shelby GT350R

[jason05gt]

Man that Telsa S is a turd on the track. It's roughly 10 seconds off of a BMW M5.

 

[Primalzer]

Man that Telsa S is a turd on the track. It's roughly 10 seconds off of a BMW M5.

I was really surprised by that too...like the Hellpig, fast in a straight line, but not much else

 

[YoushallgoFo]

2015 Mustang GT
Lap Time: 3:05.2

2016 Camaro 1LE V6
Lap time: 3:04.0


and the 2015 GT was already 3.4 seconds faster than the 2014 GT. That shows how good these 6th gen's really handle.

 

[SleeperLS]

This is true for GM, Dodge isn't even close to Ford and GM in the pony car/sport car wars.

The S550 chassis doesn't seem to be equal to the GM's Alphas based on all of the reviews I've read. I haven't driven both back to back though. Chevy has certainly benefited from the Alpha platform development from Caddy.

Only reason I put Dodge up there is because of the nice interior and the Hellcat. Two things Ford can't touch with factory options. With that being said, I would never own a Dodge.

 

[Eagle]

I wonder if the GS is really that much better than all the cars it beat out on the lap times on pg1.

ANYWAY - this is an impressive performance out of Chevy AND Ford - but shows the competition is alive and well between the two still. As a guy who is gaining appreciation for road racing, its damn good to see too!

Now I wish I hadn't missed Autobahn yesterday! I wanna go race!

 

[jason05gt]

Only reason I put Dodge up there is because of the nice interior and the Hellcat. Two things Ford can't touch with factory options. With that being said, I would never own a Dodge.

The Dodge interior looks nice in pictures and commercials, but that doesn't translate in-person. The Hellcat Charger and Challenger looked pretty cheap at the auto show.

 

[Primalzer]

2015 Mustang GT
Lap Time: 3:05.2

2016 Camaro 1LE V6
Lap time: 3:04.0


and the 2015 GT was already 3.4 seconds faster than the 2014 GT. That shows how good these 6th gen's really handle.

The Camaro gives up 100 HP, but also is a few hundred pounds lighter...plus the 1LE package, while not having the Magne-shocks, is still leaps and bounds better than the Mustang GT PP. I'm waiting for the Mustang GT to get the base GT350 suspension (their non magne-shocks)...hopefully that brings it back into the ballgame as far as suspension goes.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

The Dodge interior looks nice in pictures and commercials, but that doesn't translate in-person. The Hellcat Charger and Challenger looked pretty cheap at the auto show.

I totally disagree. The seats are MONEY and the interior seems about a current as I have seen. Better than the 6th gen camaro interior by alot. And the mustang interior is nice too, but still not challenger level.

 

[SleeperLS]

The Dodge interior looks nice in pictures and commercials, but that doesn't translate in-person. The Hellcat Charger and Challenger looked pretty cheap at the auto show.

Damn, that is disappointing to hear. I haven't actually sat in one, just looked at pictures and reviews.

 

[Wolfman]

Man that Telsa S is a turd on the track. It's roughly 10 seconds off of a BMW M5.

They had to stop and charge it halfway through

 

[Bru]

The Camaro gives up 100 HP, but also is a few hundred pounds lighter...plus the 1LE package, while not having the Magne-shocks, is still leaps and bounds better than the Mustang GT PP. I'm waiting for the Mustang GT to get the base GT350 suspension (their non magne-shocks)...hopefully that brings it back into the ballgame as far as suspension goes.

While the previous 1LE didn't have MRC, the 2017 does.

 

[Primalzer]

While the previous 1LE didn't have MRC, the 2017 does.

I was just talking the V6 1LE...when I was reading, it didn't sound like they offered the MRC on the V6, only the SS 1LE

 

[Bru]

Missed that. Yes, you're correct.

 

[Rent Free]

They had to stop and charge it halfway through

shhh

 

[YoushallgoFo]

also im finding new 1SS camaro 6 speeds for 36g here.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/675575570/overview/

 

[jason05gt]

I totally disagree. The seats are MONEY and the interior seems about a current as I have seen. Better than the 6th gen camaro interior by alot. And the mustang interior is nice too, but still not challenger level.

Lots of hard plastics and lackluster fit/finish. I was with two German car owners including [MENTION=510]Vogz[/MENTION] and he made similar comments.

 

[Vogz]

Lots of hard plastics and lackluster fit/finish. I was with two German car owners including [MENTION=510]Vogz[/MENTION] and he made similar comments.

Yea, going to have to agree with Jason here. As a fellow dash molester, the Hellcat interior looks great in pictures, but it doesn't translate into a quality feeling once you sit in the real thing. My 2011 S4's interior is now dated in the $50-$70K range but it's still well ahead of the Hellcat interior.

 

[YoushallgoFo]

The challenger refresh helped the interior a ton, but I'll agree that I wasn't exactly blown away by the materials when i sat in one at the autoshow.

 

[Dasfinc]

The challenger refresh helped the interior a ton, but I'll agree that I wasn't exactly blown away by the materials when i sat in one at the autoshow.

I loved the ergonomics of the new interior, and how much more 'cockpit' like it felt, but the door handles were still in the same obnoxious position, and the greenhouse was unchanged so it still sucked to see out of.

 

[RedBeard]

I think Chevy has finally built a Camaro I'd enjoy driving. But I just absolutely HATE the shit visibility when looking out of the car.

Would take SS 1LE over GT track pack for sure.

 

[YoushallgoFo]

The visibility in every new car sucks now. The 4th gen was said to have bad visibility at the time but compared to a new car I feel like its actually better. You can't see out the back of anything anymore.

 

[Rent Free]

Have you drove any S550 2015 up mustang? i was pleasantly suprised with mine.