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Old 12-25-2015, 07:27 AM   #1
 
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Naw, I'll let the computer do it. Lol



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I'll take it. Love it in cars like the Corvette, Camaro, M5, 370Z. It's cheating, but it works so damn well.
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I'll take it. Love it in cars like the Corvette, Camaro, M5, 370Z. It's cheating, but it works so damn well.

My Z spoiled me, had to get it back for the viper! Reviews are good for this so I'm looking forward to testing it out.
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Definitely post up a review. This is interesting.
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Shame we have to wait months for a review
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Bro.. its sunny out and not a spec of salt on the roads from the recent rain
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But Jim would have to move like 10 cars to get to this.
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it took me forever to learn how to heel toe, which i'm still improving on, but it's a pretty fun part of the set of skills.

that being said, i got a tune this year that has an auto-blip mode. i've only done it on the way to starbucks, and it works really well.

i avoiding using it all this summer since i like working on the skill. maybe i'll try playing with it the next, i'm sure it would improve my braking!
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Well that seems awesome.
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ive tried, not very hard , but i tried to learn. i cant seem to keep brake pressure up. and having had auto blip with the Z, its really a no brainer. will be sure to photo step by step of the install and video the set up. then will take everyone for a ride on the track with periscope or something first time I try it out.
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ive tried, not very hard , but i tried to learn. i cant seem to keep brake pressure up. and having had auto blip with the Z, its really a no brainer. will be sure to photo step by step of the install and video the set up. then will take everyone for a ride on the track with periscope or something first time I try it out.
i have to be braking hard to do it. a buddy of mine can do it as effortlessly as breathing, for me to make it work i need to be dive bombing into something and braking pretty hard though. i also don't blip with heel, more like smash with all available footstuffs, although i don't think that part is all that uncommon. i also probably don't modulate the brakes very well, probably like 85%, 65%+blip, 90% or something like that with a total drag time braking larger than it should be but hey, still fun for now. next year i'll try a session with auto blip and see how it affects my times.

weird in your brain when you first use it a few times to not go and blip yourself!
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heel-toe is as natural to me as regular shifting now BUT I must admit it did take me about a year to get it right. I think I'd be fighting with a computer doing the rev-matching for me now if I got into a car that already did it.. lol
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heel-toe is as natural to me as regular shifting now BUT I must admit it did take me about a year to get it right. I think I'd be fighting with a computer doing the rev-matching for me now if I got into a car that already did it.. lol
Its natural to me, and I rev-match all the time without the brakes.

But my Focus ST has the most horrible pedal positioning. The gas is so far below the brake pedal in terms of height that unless you are standing on the brakes I cannot reach the gas pedal very well at all with my heel.

Even when standing on the brakes the brake pedal is still taller than the gas pedal.

Oddly enough, the only time Heel/Toe is comfortable in the is when the stock brakes are faded to near uselessness.

They make a pedal mount for the ST that raises the throttle pedal up, and moves it closer to the brake pedal to make it easyer.

Ford did this crappy arrangement to reduce the morons from hitting brake/gas at the same time. While it prevents idiots from doing that, it makes it harder for us to heel/toe.
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Its natural to me, and I rev-match all the time without the brakes.

But my Focus ST has the most horrible pedal positioning. The gas is so far below the brake pedal in terms of height that unless you are standing on the brakes I cannot reach the gas pedal very well at all with my heel.

Even when standing on the brakes the brake pedal is still taller than the gas pedal.

Oddly enough, the only time Heel/Toe is comfortable in the is when the stock brakes are faded to near uselessness.

They make a pedal mount for the ST that raises the throttle pedal up, and moves it closer to the brake pedal to make it easyer.

Ford did this crappy arrangement to reduce the morons from hitting brake/gas at the same time. While it prevents idiots from doing that, it makes it harder for us to heel/toe.
Hit the nail on the head...pedal placement is key to good heel-toeing...if the pedals are spaced too far or at different heights, makes it much more difficult...also I've never actually done heel and toes, more like side of foot...at least that's how I was taught
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I try to heel toe on my car but the damn thing takes so long to rev up that its a PITA
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Hit the nail on the head...pedal placement is key to good heel-toeing...if the pedals are spaced too far or at different heights, makes it much more difficult...also I've never actually done heel and toes, more like side of foot...at least that's how I was taught
chunky shoes can help. i can't do it in racing shoes which i just use for karting. at least i haven't even tried again in an eternity.

i drove a formula 3000 at yas marina and i got in the car and started panicking because chunky shoes were not my friend. like 80% of the time when i tried to hit the brake or gas i ended up hitting both. thankfully they had loaner racing shoes and i was able to run out and swap some quickly, else i would have been fuuuucked.
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Hit the nail on the head...pedal placement is key to good heel-toeing...if the pedals are spaced too far or at different heights, makes it much more difficult...also I've never actually done heel and toes, more like side of foot...at least that's how I was taught
My natural method is to roll my ankle right, its how I heel/toe in the TransAm, and how I did it in the G6 GTP. Part of me wishes I still had the G6, it was actually a really fun car to drive, even though it was a heavy porker at 3530lbs.

With the Focus I can't do that, I have to angle my foot about 45 counter clockwise so the ball of my foot is on the brake, and then I have to drop my heel onto the gas pedal. The distance is so far it makes it really hard to keep smooth modulation on the brakes.

This is what I'm talking about: Left is stock, right is with spacer.

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My natural method is to roll my ankle right, its how I heel/toe in the TransAm, and how I did it in the G6 GTP. Part of me wishes I still had the G6, it was actually a really fun car to drive, even though it was a heavy porker at 3530lbs.

With the Focus I can't do that, I have to angle my foot about 45 counter clockwise so the ball of my foot is on the brake, and then I have to drop my heel onto the gas pedal. The distance is so far it makes it really hard to keep smooth modulation on the brakes.

This is what I'm talking about: Left is stock, right is with spacer.

My C30 was like that before picture...such a PITA to try and heel toe...zero clutch feedback didn't help either
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chunky shoes can help. i can't do it in racing shoes which i just use for karting. at least i haven't even tried again in an eternity.

i drove a formula 3000 at yas marina and i got in the car and started panicking because chunky shoes were not my friend. like 80% of the time when i tried to hit the brake or gas i ended up hitting both. thankfully they had loaner racing shoes and i was able to run out and swap some quickly, else i would have been fuuuucked.
Yeah, racing shoes are kind of nice. I always find it to shift smoothly when I have a brand new pair of shoes that hasn't been broken in yet. It feels like I'm walking around on a wooden sole, no feeling at all.

Race shoes are completely the opposite, so thin you can feel the pedals almost like you are bare foot. That takes some getting used to as well but is ultimately better.
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My right ankle is fucked up, so I have a hard time consistently rev matching while braking. I have to awkwardly position my foot on the brake and slightly roll my ankle over to hit the gas. I can't make the appropriate "heel-toe" movement. If I decide to hold on to my 5.0 and not get a vette, I will buy this as it looks sweet.
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Maybe I got lucky, but I learned it in one session. Obviously I've gotten better since, but it's so easy a caveman can do it.

HOWEVER, if there's an option to have it done automatically Do it.
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