Not that afraid of the Russian air force anymore

[Kaeghl]

Apparently, at least a portion of Russia’s fleet of Su-24 Fencers are running on handheld Garmin-like GPS systems in addition to their aging inertial navigation systems, as seen in this photo tweet showing a Fencer refueling from an Il-76 Midas tanker.

Check Out The Walmart-Grade GPS Systems In These Russian Attack Jets

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[Mook]

 

[Mr_Roboto]

I don't fear Russian planes, the bombs they can drop on the other hand...................

 

[Primalzer]

The highly coveted rubber band and generic plastic holder mod

 

[Primalzer]

And as an FYI, the Su-24, is a swingwing super sonic bomber, similar to the F-111 Aardvark

 

[sickmint79]

seems the future will be all drones anyway

 

[Stink Star]

You aren't afraid of them because one of their oldest planes is outdated? Even their bread and butter fighter the SU-27 is outdated but would still kick major ass if it ever came down to it

 

[Ear Rak]

Que [MENTION=236]Stink Star Productions[/MENTION]' cheer leading of Russian military gear and vehicles.

 

[Stink Star]

It's not that, but I'm just saying people underestimate their military power, especially their planes. They are very very good. Of course their missles aren't as good as ours, but pound for pound they will hang with or exceed the performance of American planes

 

[rz79]

It's not that, but I'm just saying people underestimate their military power, especially their planes. They are very very good. Of course their missles aren't as good as ours, but pound for pound they will hang with or exceed the performance of American planes

Not being a smartass, but can you elaborate?

 

[Stink Star]

Even the SU-27 which is an old plane can out accelerate, out maneuver, and out top speed anything the USA uses, short of an F-22, and they likely have 100 SU27's for every F-22 we have. Just the sheer number of their planes should be scary enough. Of course people will say their training isn't as good and they don't have the carriers or the weapons systems we have and that's true, but when it comes down to it their planes are very good

 

[Typhoon]

Even the SU-27 which is an old plane can out accelerate, out maneuver, and out top speed anything the USA uses, short of an F-22, and they likely have 100 SU27's for every F-22 we have. Just the sheer number of their planes should be scary enough. Of course people will say their training isn't as good and they don't have the carriers or the weapons systems we have and that's true, but when it comes down to it their planes are very good

Its not faster than a F-15 in a straight line.

 

[Donnie]

Don't we have a chairforce guy on here? Someone page him in for some professional insights. lol.

 

[Stink Star]

Its not faster than a F-15 in a straight line.

Doesn't matter much if it can out climb and out turn it.

 

[jason05gt]

Even the SU-27 which is an old plane can out accelerate, out maneuver, and out top speed anything the USA uses, short of an F-22, and they likely have 100 SU27's for every F-22 we have. Just the sheer number of their planes should be scary enough. Of course people will say their training isn't as good and they don't have the carriers or the weapons systems we have and that's true, but when it comes down to it their planes are very good

Doesn't matter as the F-15 would have the advantage due to better avionics and armament allowing for a greater engagement distance. Plus you are comparing apples to oranges in 1970's tech vs. late 80's tech.

 

[Stink Star]

Plus that's just the SU-27 which I only mentioned because they have like a million of them. They of course have much more modern aircraft that are about the equivalent of a multi role like a Mig 29 being like a F18 or a SU-35 being like a F-35


Not to mention, even though everybody knows the coolest and fastest jet of all time is the SR-71, the Mig-31 could achieve over mach3 which is almost as fast as the blackbird, despite it being only a fighter aircraft

 

[Breze84]

The US spends more on military defense in 1 year then Russia,China,North Korea,UK,Japan,France,Saudi Arabia,India,Germany,Italy all combined... lol

 

[Primalzer]

Russia is close to coming out with the PAK Tu-50, which will likely match or exceed the performance of the F-22 in almost every measurable category. Plus Russia has developed an advanced radar jamming system that renders the A2A missiles on the F-22 almost useless in a dogfight. The issues with Russian airforce is they have some aging fleet (like the Su-24 that'll be replaced by the Su-34 in the coming years) but they just don't have a lot of planes. US fighters outnumber the Russians 3:1

What the Russian military has is tanks. SHIT LOADS of tanks. Almost double what the United States currently has in service. And many of these are not aging relics, they are pound for pound as good as the Abrams, and Russia has a long history of great training and tank tactics.

 

[b00sted]

The US spends more on military defense in 1 year then Russia,China,North Korea,UK,Japan,France,Saudi Arabia,India,Germany,Italy all combined... lol

That's because each desk has a $300 stapler and a $400 hole punch.

 

[Breze84]

Best video EVER.. Should have its own thread... Only the Russians hahahahaha

 

[rz79]

Russia is close to coming out with the PAK Tu-50, which will likely match or exceed the performance of the F-22 in almost every measurable category. Plus Russia has developed an advanced radar jamming system that renders the A2A missiles on the F-22 almost useless in a dogfight. The issues with Russian airforce is they have some aging fleet (like the Su-24 that'll be replaced by the Su-34 in the coming years) but they just don't have a lot of planes. US fighters outnumber the Russians 3:1

What the Russian military has is tanks. SHIT LOADS of tanks. Almost double what the United States currently has in service. And many of these are not aging relics, they are pound for pound as good as the Abrams, and Russia has a long history of great training and tank tactics.

Isn't a tank based war a thing of the past? I mean... I KNOW I'm comparing apples and cheetahs here but Iraq have a eleventyhundereded tanks? (Yes poorly trained, yes old equipment)
My point though, what good are they?

 

[Primalzer]

Isn't a tank based war a thing of the past? I mean... I KNOW I'm comparing apples and cheetahs here but Iraq have a eleventyhundereded tanks? (Yes poorly trained, yes old equipment)
My point though, what good are they?

Chances are, we'd never have a "true" tank battle with Russia. But if there was ever an invasion, chances are tanks would still play a major role. The Russian T-90's (their main battle tanks) are cheaper and much more plentiful than the Abrams. Plus the T-90 is not THAT far behind the Abrams in terms of performance on the battlefield. A good tactician could use Russians sheer numbers, and strengths of the T-90 to out maneuver a US tank invasion. Russia was embarrassed in their last larger scale tank invasion in Chechnya in the early 90's, but it won't make that mistake again.

If you've got the time, read this article. The author is awesome, and has a ton of great information and insight into all things military.

What America Can Learn From Russia's Cheap But Deadly T90 Tank

 

[Mr_Roboto]

At some level why does it matter unless we go full tilt WW-III style we will never try to wrestle with the bear. Anyways, attacking the computer infra is more likely to be the course of action no matter which side is doing it.

 

[Primalzer]

At some level why does it matter unless we go full tilt WW-III style we will never try to wrestle with the bear. Anyways, attacking the computer infra is more likely to be the course of action no matter which side is doing it.

This. Chances are, future wars will be fought over the internet, and through strategic satellite destruction/manipulation. The DoD's top secret unmanned space shuttle X37 has long since been rumored to find, intercept, and disable potentially hostile or strategic enemy satellites and spacecraft. As soon as the US can disable another modern country's satellite infrastructure, it can pretty much bring that country to its knees.

 

[Grabber]

I play BF and COD too, guys...

:shrug: