Leonia N.J. to Ban Drivers Who Don't Live There

[Flyn]

Here's a weird story. Leonia N.J. is on a path that GPS systems use to get drivers to their destinations. Officials say traffic is a nightmare and they have the answer. They are going to ban all drivers who don't live in the town from using their roads. Residents will get a yellow tag. Non residents can be ticketed ($200).

This one should end up in court. It's a speed trap taken to extremes. They collect $200 as you pass GO.

Navigation apps are supposed to make driving experiences better by suggesting shortcuts for commuters away from heavy traffic. But officials in one town in New Jersey—Leonia—say they’re actually dealing with extreme congestion because of apps like Waze and Google Maps. So next month Leonia’s set to ban drivers who don’t live there, except in limited circumstance.s

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...ont-live-there-because-of-gps-apps/ar-BBHo5L8

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[DanJ]

That can’t be good for local commerce. This also seems like it borders on not legal, doesn’t state money help fund roads?

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Idiots. Good luck getting that to pass

 

[VenomInside]

 

[FESTER665]

I dunno about banning anyone who doesn't live there but i'm sure there are things they could do to make it essentially do the same.

I know some cities have signs that don't allow you to turn into their subdivisions during certain hours, they could possibly do stuff like that for non-residents to keep them off certain streets or risk a ticket?

 

[Chet Donnelly]

Then that city shouldn't receive any tax funding from outside its city then...

 

[nytebyte]

Not enforceable.

They're asking for a HUGE lawsuit from the very first person they "ticket".

 

[Yaj Yak]

isn't driving a privilege and not a right technically?

so like they could possibly get away with this?

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

I dunno about banning anyone who doesn't live there but i'm sure there are things they could do to make it essentially do the same.

I know some cities have signs that don't allow you to turn into their subdivisions during certain hours, they could possibly do stuff like that for non-residents to keep them off certain streets or risk a ticket?

If you read the article thats what it says. The title is fucking garbage and flyn picked a perfect quote to go with the garbage clickbait title..

Just about anyone else who drives between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. and 9 p.m. on about 60 of the township’s residential streets could face a $200 fine. And in case you forget, signs will be posted on the streets, hopefully by mid-January, officials said.

 

[FESTER665]

Fucking Floridians.

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[Kensington]

isn't driving a privilege and not a right technically?

so like they could possibly get away with this?

Inter-state travel is a right under the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution, I can't see how this stands up for very long.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Inter-state travel is a right under the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution, I can't see how this stands up for very long.

not necessarily in a car though

 

[Kensington]

not necessarily in a car though

Whichever judge sees the case will be the one to decide on that

I would argue that it's unreasonable to suspend automobile travel through the city. Driving itself is a privilege, I completely agree. But the freedom to travel anywhere you please in whatever vehicle (car, truck, bus, train, moped, bicycle, roller skates, etc.) you please is a right, or at least that's how I interpret it.

 

[jason05gt]

This will get shot down in the courts and simply cost the town taxpayers money trying to defend it.

 

[Mr_Roboto]

I can see the businesses in the city loving the increased traffic they are getting. NOT.

 

[FESTER665]

Everyone saying it's BS needs to read what [MENTION=73]tinfoilhat[/MENTION] posted in post #9. They're blocking traffic on residential streets during set hours.

If you think that they cant do that or it won't hold up in court I would point out that there's a TON of that going on in Elmhurst along North Avenue (or at least there was for YEARS when I worked in Villa Park).

 

[Flyn]

Tinfoil is partially right. It's not all side streets. Secondary and tertiary roads are mentioned which I take to mean secondary being more of the main streets through town and tertiary being side streets. Waze has gotten so sophisticated it's looking for clear streets to keep people off the congested "Primary" highways and sending them through Leonia.

“Without question, the game changer has been the navigation apps,” said Tom Rowe, Leonia’s police chief. “In the morning, if I sign onto my Waze account, I find there are 250,000 ‘Wazers’ in the area. When the primary roads become congested, it directs vehicles into Leonia and pushes them onto secondary and tertiary roads. We have had days when people can’t get out of their driveways.”

 

[Kensington]

Everyone saying it's BS needs to read what [MENTION=73]tinfoilhat[/MENTION] posted in post #9. They're blocking traffic on residential streets during set hours.

If you think that they cant do that or it won't hold up in court I would point out that there's a TON of that going on in Elmhurst along North Avenue (or at least there was for YEARS when I worked in Villa Park).

There's the, at least in Illinois law, "avoiding a traffic control device" by jogging through a backstreet to miss a traffic light.

Would have to see which streets they are "blocking off". Sounds like they are leaving major thoroughfares alone, but you'd have to look at a map before you call it or deny it as BS.

 

[Yaj Yak]

BEEN THERE

625-5/11-305(A)

Chg Dt: 08-28-2006 DISREG OFFL TRAFFIC-CON DEVICE

 

[GG Allin]

Bannockburn used to do this at Telegraph and Wilmot Rd, during rush hour. They might still. If you don't live there, y'ain't gettin' through.