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Old 10-23-2014, 10:12 AM   #126
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It's all about new car segments... Capable + warranty! Just cause 2% of us can actually build something better or work on it doesn't mean shit
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its kinda hard to keep a modding scene when 10sec cars get popped out of the factory and all you need to do is mash the accelerator and keep it straight.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:16 AM   #129
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:17 AM   #130
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its kinda hard to keep a modding scene when 10sec cars get popped out of the factory and all you need to do is mash the accelerator and keep it straight.


which is why i feel compelled to build things that don't exist from the manufacturers now instead.

like an expedition-style something
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:25 AM   #131
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my g/f has an 07 patriot. does just fine as a DD and winter beater.

99k miles. still going strong.
some patriots were "trail rated" so what's the dif ?
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The Jeep Chumpass and Patrishit are terrible, and I thought Jeep admitted that?
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:35 AM   #133
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patriot was supposed to go away a couple years ago and they are still being produced ?
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:41 AM   #134
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We can not keep up with how fast the compass and patriot are selling! Don't get me wrong I understand they are 10 years behind the competition... But they are super cheap and reliable!

The trail rated versions get skid plates a wannabe set of all terrain and use a cvt trans while the others get the standard 6 speed... Not sure what else is different
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Jeep is doing a great job of "Jeepifing" there crossovers. I love my Trailhawk and the Renegade would be a cool little trail car. Nothing crazy but it will do with camping and small off roading trips. I like where Jeep is heading. Quality and product development are light years ahead of where they were a few years ago.
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2015 Jeep Renegade to start at $17,995, Trailhawk rings up at $25,995

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Prices for the 2015 Jeep Renegade have leaked onto a enthusiast forum ahead of the official embargo on pricing and driving impressions, which breaks at 12:01 AM Friday. They come from a video interview with Jeep CEO Mike Manley, that was allegedly set live accidentally. It's since been pulled down. At this point, it's unclear if the listed prices include any destination charges, so they could climb slightly higher or lower.

In its most basic form, the two-wheel-drive Renegade Sport will go on sale for just $17,995. For that price, you get, um, not a lot. Really. The entry level Renegade doesn't even offer standard air conditioning – it's part of a package that includes heated power mirrors and cruise control.

The $21,295 Latitude adds a leather-wrapped steering wheel, standard 16-inch wheels, air conditioning, five-inch touchscreen infotainment system with Bluetooth, a six-speaker stereo and USB connectivity.

The top-end Renegade Limited, meanwhile, starts at $24,795 and makes standard items of the heated, powered leather seats, dual-zone climate control, seven-inch TFT display in the instrument cluster, auto-dimming mirror and 18-inch wheels. The Limited also adds a number of aesthetic tweaks that spruce up the Renegade's exterior, including brightwork around the grille, mirror caps, taillights and roof rails.

The above prices, of course, are only for the front-drive Renegade. Add $2,000 to the above prices for all-wheel drive.

You won't need to add that to the all-wheel-drive-only Trailhawk, which starts at $25,995 and comes with a slew of off-road features, including a bespoke front and rear fascia, with the former sporting the world's most adorable pair of red tow hooks. Mechanically, there's an exclusive version of the brand's Active Drive all-wheel-drive system that includes a 20-to-one crawl ratio and a dedicated Rock mode for the Selec-Terrain system and 17-inch wheels. The cabin, meanwhile, is home to Ruby Red accents.

While we have basic trim prices, we're still without more specific details, including the cost of marquee options like the My Sky roof, as well as the plethora of options packages that will be available when the CUV arrives in dealers.

We'll have our full review of the all-new Renegade available when the embargo on driving impressions breaks Friday. In the meantime, let us know what you think of these prices. Are they where you expected them to be? Higher? Lower? Have your say in Comments.
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Yeah, the pricing isn't bad. I'm interested in what the trailhawk actually sells for.
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I don't think it's bad at all... It's not for everyone... But for people shopping the Kia soul, scion xb, etc... I think it will be a better alternative
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27k fully loaded is silly cheap for a car like that. It looks like you can't get HIDs even on the top model though. Halogens are no bueno.
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Considering a 4wd wrangler starts waay above the trail hawk as does the cherokee, I can see this doing well.

It certainly looks better than the cherokee
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Yeah, this is definitely interesting....great price. Will wait for the configurator to come up, so I can build my own...
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Old man Mike K is done with conversion kits. Plus they're entirely hit and miss in halogen housings. They might work great or they might blind everyone around you.

I mean I'm not buying one either way so it's not like I'm super disappointed. I'm just surprised to see any modern vehicles not offer HIDs as at least an option.
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Old man Mike K is done with conversion kits. Plus they're entirely hit and miss in halogen housings. They might work great or they might blind everyone around you.

I mean I'm not buying one either way so it's not like I'm super disappointed. I'm just surprised to see any modern vehicles not offer HIDs as at least an option.

I'm a little angry that Ford only has the LED's as an option in the high-end trucks and everything up to that point has halogen. I'd figure HID is so common now it'd be in everything.
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I'm definitely interested. It looks like a decent DD / winter car. Lately I've been looking at buying a Patriot. They are dirt cheap and they seem to be reliable enough.
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I'm definitely interested. It looks like a decent DD / winter car. Lately I've been looking at buying a Patriot. They are dirt cheap and they seem to be reliable enough.
and you get a FPT discount don't you?
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and you get a FPT discount don't you?
Yup, CNH or FPT employees qualify for Employee Advantage pricing.
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Plus they're entirely hit and miss in halogen housings. They might work great or they might blind everyone around you.
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