Lots of white smoke means....
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Im guessing you have an internal antifreeze leak.
I had the same issue years ago on my 91 Beretta GTZ. I had a cracked head.
Not saying your head is cracked. Could be the gasket.
You might want to get the heads checked to see if there is a crack. It waould really suck to just replace a gasket only to find out there is a crack. But then there maybe a cleaner area between or around the cylinder where antifreeze was leaking into a cylinder. So maybe a head checked for a crack is not worth it.
I had the same issue years ago on my 91 Beretta GTZ. I had a cracked head.
Not saying your head is cracked. Could be the gasket.
You might want to get the heads checked to see if there is a crack. It waould really suck to just replace a gasket only to find out there is a crack. But then there maybe a cleaner area between or around the cylinder where antifreeze was leaking into a cylinder. So maybe a head checked for a crack is not worth it.
What was the repair you were performing? That's an indication of either a bad head gasket or bad lower intake gaskets. The latter is more likely. Drop the oil, check out the lower intake gaskets and go from there. A major head gasket leak wouldn't be likely unless you got really frisky with the boost knob.
Either way, don't turn the engine back on until you get the problem sorted out and new oil in there. Anti-freeze/ water displaces oil and that's not what you want on bearing surfaces.
Either way, don't turn the engine back on until you get the problem sorted out and new oil in there. Anti-freeze/ water displaces oil and that's not what you want on bearing surfaces.
The motor had a double roller put in and I switched from my L67 set up to the L36 LIM and UIM. The head gaskets are the layered cometic ones and were put on about 4 years ago. The heads have not been removed since.
What should I look for on the LIM gasket to see if it is leaky? I did use a new LIM gasket.
Would it be worth it to do a compression test before I take everything apart? Thanks for the help.
What should I look for on the LIM gasket to see if it is leaky? I did use a new LIM gasket.
Would it be worth it to do a compression test before I take everything apart? Thanks for the help.
I was thinking condensation, but when my garage filled up pretty damn good with white smoke I figured it was more than just the weather temp. It didn't smell like buring oil to me. I will take off the intake a check that LIM out. Anything I should look out for when I am looking at the LIM gasket?
Thanks for the tip on the coolant and oil guys, I was thinking about starting it back up to pull it out of my garage so I will cancel starting her up again until I check out the LIM.
Thanks for the tip on the coolant and oil guys, I was thinking about starting it back up to pull it out of my garage so I will cancel starting her up again until I check out the LIM.
your using the green coolant right?
if its coolant thats getting burned the "steam" will have a bittersweet taste to it.
also you have been running it for short periods of time before finally running it up to temp so it could just be burning off the condensation in the exhaust/crankcase.
it can cloud up a garage quite easily just from the condensation of water in the exhaust from just combustion...deffinatly check for the smell/taste by wafting a bit towards your face while smelling/tasting
remember you no longer should have a pcv system and just have a crankcase breather to vent it so condensation wont evaporate till the motors up to temp.
how milky is the oil? how low is the coolant?
if anything drain the oil mix into a clear jug and let it sit for a day or two and watch fr the water to settle to the bottom..if its got a nice green tint then you for sure have a coolant leak
that lim should be completly sealed, we were only missing a few bolts and it got sealed up tight...iirc correctly the lim TB coolant holes were plugged so i doubt anythings getting sucked in through the TB/egr hole area but you can always check by pulling the TB/adaptor.
you can also pressure test the cooling system and see if the pressure drops..a local parts store should be able to rent you a pressure tester.
if its coolant thats getting burned the "steam" will have a bittersweet taste to it.
also you have been running it for short periods of time before finally running it up to temp so it could just be burning off the condensation in the exhaust/crankcase.
it can cloud up a garage quite easily just from the condensation of water in the exhaust from just combustion...deffinatly check for the smell/taste by wafting a bit towards your face while smelling/tasting
remember you no longer should have a pcv system and just have a crankcase breather to vent it so condensation wont evaporate till the motors up to temp.
how milky is the oil? how low is the coolant?
if anything drain the oil mix into a clear jug and let it sit for a day or two and watch fr the water to settle to the bottom..if its got a nice green tint then you for sure have a coolant leak
that lim should be completly sealed, we were only missing a few bolts and it got sealed up tight...iirc correctly the lim TB coolant holes were plugged so i doubt anythings getting sucked in through the TB/egr hole area but you can always check by pulling the TB/adaptor.
you can also pressure test the cooling system and see if the pressure drops..a local parts store should be able to rent you a pressure tester.
dont worry at least one other member got "rag'd" on, if i recal i remember something about straight up medievil "cotton dismemberment" 
get footage of the steam leaving the pipes...what does it smell/taste of?
since i know he's gonna post im waiting for 10sec to quip about yeawellthistooksolongbecauserumplestiltskintouchedit
get footage of the steam leaving the pipes...what does it smell/taste of?
since i know he's gonna post im waiting for 10sec to quip about yeawellthistooksolongbecauserumplestiltskintouchedit
hahaha, I still can't believe I left that fuckin rag in there
Unfortunately the smoke was too thick to get a vid from inside the garage, but I got a couple outside so you guys can see what I am talking about. This project really has taken me way too long, but this is the first time doing something this extensive on my own time so I have been very very cautious...and lazy.
The smoke has a fuel/steam quality to it. Doesn't really smell like burning oil much if at all. Sweet smelling would prolly be a good way to describe it.
Vids:
http://tcgvids.com/video/XXWWNUS8BNB3/Smoke-show
http://tcgvids.com/video/XDXM4OKW1DMK/smoke-show-2
Unfortunately the smoke was too thick to get a vid from inside the garage, but I got a couple outside so you guys can see what I am talking about. This project really has taken me way too long, but this is the first time doing something this extensive on my own time so I have been very very cautious...and lazy.The smoke has a fuel/steam quality to it. Doesn't really smell like burning oil much if at all. Sweet smelling would prolly be a good way to describe it.
Vids:
http://tcgvids.com/video/XXWWNUS8BNB3/Smoke-show
http://tcgvids.com/video/XDXM4OKW1DMK/smoke-show-2
Hmm... that definitely looks like more than condensation, the entire garage is full Sounds like it's running ok. IDK man.
I too left a rag in my red car during the turbo kit install, got sucked into #3 and #4 cylinders when it was running. What a bone head move. I'm lucky it didn't hurt anything.
Sounds like it's running ok. IDK man. I too left a rag in my red car during the turbo kit install, got sucked into #3 and #4 cylinders when it was running.
What a bone head move. I'm lucky it didn't hurt anything.
Hmm... that definitely looks like more than condensation, the entire garage is full
I too left a rag in my red car during the turbo kit install, got sucked into #3 and #4 cylinders when it was running.
Yeah, it is pretty much a smoke out in my garage. The engine really does sound nice IMO...nicer then it has sounded in the past. I need to raise the idle just a tad until I get everything dialed in, but it doesn't try and die all the time. I am going to do a coolant system pressure test and see what that shows. If nothing, then I will do a compression test. I do know that my oil is milky as milky gets...so there has got to be a coolant leak somewhere I guess.
I am glad I am not the only one who did this...jesus man. I took off my TB and saw a little tail of a blue shop towel in the TB blade and thought WTF?. I turn the TB over and the entire fucking rag is in there completely covering up the MAF sensor and pretty much the entire inlet. I can't even believe my car ran to be honest...3800 FTW! I just looked up and called myself a retard and kept moving. I couldn't help but feel I got lucky as shit that the rag didn't get sucked farther
. needless to say, the car idles and runs much much better now than the first time. It starts up without any hesitation at all, which is also a big improvement from before the rebuild.My car ran like a DREAM, it was idling perfect, everything was cool. I gave the throttle a blip, and that was enough for it to suck the rag into the cylinders. Killed the motor, started it back up, and it sounded like it spun a bearing, but it was just the shirt holding the valves open enough for the piston to hit them. I was for sure convinced I spun a bearing (always feared that ) then i thought to myself... Did I ever take out that shirt? Hmm.... Pulled the supercharger case cover off, and there you have it. I myself 100,000x, and still to this day. What an idiot!
) then i thought to myself... Did I ever take out that shirt? Hmm.... Pulled the supercharger case cover off, and there you have it. I myself 100,000x, and still to this day. What an idiot!
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