Need help picking a cam!

[nmskull66]

Ok so ive decided that im going to invest in a cam from ZZP but i need to know what you guys think would work better for me. The mods that im currently running are: Top swapped motor, 3.4 pulley, headers, No cat, 3" full exhaust, MSD coils and 10.5mm wires, autolight 104's, Cut valves and seats, and a FWI, with a minor tune. I currently have an innercooler as well but havent installed it yet.

But its between these two cams from ZZP-

NIC
http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=941&catid=104

or

XP Hot
http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=117&catid=104

Please give me your info!!

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[Mook]

xp

 

[nmskull66]

yea? then i need someone to retune my car

 

[Mook]

wouldnt u need a tune on either cam?

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

XP or S1X.



Nic cam is WEAK

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

Nikon or canon, maybe a kodak

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Nikon.

Kodak for disposable.

 

[Riski]

get polaroid!

 

[Mike K]

Nic cam is WEAK

NIC is awesome if you're hellbent against intercooling. I ran a very similar cam in my car and was able to run a 3.0 pulley with minimal tuning on manifolds no less. Plus it sounds wicked.

Ultimately we didn't end up making them because of the problems ZZP had with the NIC and people blowing their car up the first time out. Ideally you should install the cam, install a "safe" pulley, tune, drop pulley sizes, check for knock and fine tune and then you're done. There's not a lot of room for error on tuning.

 

[Ron Vogel]

With a topswap, XP would be the best choice. NIC is a fringe cam that can make good power, but the XP works well with higher compression and it's proven. NIC is the ultimate "poser" cam...it has the best sounding idle of any other 3800 cam...but they all sound the same when you take off.

 

[Mook]

if you want idle sound, just get a cutout along w/ the cam.

http://tcgvids.com/video/7BW984KY46XR/99-GTP-w-XP-cam-

but ron is right, everything sounds the same once ure off idle.

 

[nmskull66]

i just want a good idle that sounds nice. I prolly will go with the XP but i need to find someone to tune my car after the install then. Im also undecided on if i should pull the motor or do it through the wheel well

 

[TraptPatriot]

Whichever you go with, do NOT put on the MSD coils. Seriously. Run regular GTP coils. Please, for gods sake.

 

[DanJ]

My car runs way better on stock coils than it did on MSD's

 

[SleeperLS]

I agree with the xp...killer numbers come from that cam. S1x as mentioned above is also a good one. Either XP or S1x. Flip a coin. I did hear there is more valve train wear from the XP though. Could be complete bullshit though...you know rumors

 

[shaferz]

+ vote for S1X. I love it in my car.

 

[SleeperLS]

Shaferz...you ever run your gtp at the 1/4 mile track?

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

i just want a good idle that sounds nice. I prolly will go with the XP but i need to find someone to tune my car after the install then. Im also undecided on if i should pull the motor or do it through the wheel well

Fenderwell isn't terrible.

 

[10sec]

Pulling the motor gives you a chance to go over all the gaskets, much easier to do it, did i mention it's much easier? But ^^^ is right too, it's not impossible leaving it in either.

 

[Yaj Yak]

s1x

 

[shaferz]

Shaferz...you ever run your gtp at the 1/4 mile track?

Not recently. Pulled 12.4 @ 114 last season.

Now have Talmans ported heads + slicks + a healthier shot of giggle juice.

130k on the stock bottom end.

Shooting for 11.9's @ 116. Regular 93 octane + full exhaust. I'm too cheap for higher octane gas (and too cheap to buy injectors to run E85,) I'm too lazy to drop the exhaust, and I'm too lazy to do the cable mod for the rear suspension.

 

[SleeperLS]

Not recently. Pulled 12.4 @ 114 last season.

Now have Talmans ported heads + slicks + a healthier shot of giggle juice.

130k on the stock bottom end.

Shooting for 11.9's @ 116. Regular 93 octane + full exhaust. I'm too cheap for higher octane gas (and too cheap to buy injectors to run E85,) I'm too lazy to drop the exhaust, and I'm too lazy to do the cable mod for the rear suspension.

Nice man, that fucker runs. Good luck on the new pb

 

[TommyGloves]

VS /thread

 

[PANDA]

stock cam

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[Yaj Yak]

turbo

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