Anyone know a good shop for valve adjustment?

[DaytonaGTP25]

Like the title says...i need to know a shop...and an estimated price... its needs to be done asap ... its getting Bad. But I know nothing about getting this work done so Any input would be awesome! I live in Villa Park but am willing to drive if i can get a deal.

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[phat_ridegt]

valve adjustment? on a 3800? what heads/mods are you running? springs? you just need the vlave lash adjusted? the heads dont need to come off for that....are you running aftermarket rockers?

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

I was just told thats what i need...i have no idea..theres a Nasty ticking type of knock from the rear bank...only mods are the zzp pcm intake and 104s

 

[phat_ridegt]

there really isnt any valve adjustment that can be done with stock valve train. the noise is surely a lifter, loose rocker, exhaust leak, or a lower end knock. try a splash of trans fluid in the crankcase, and see if it gets better.

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

Huh....thank you...i was about to say F*** it and replace the enitre top end lol..... I will check it out...the sound is definatly coming for the top end rear valve bank..... so i guess my original thought of loose rocker may be it after all.... You may have just saved me alot of $$$$!

 

[phat_ridegt]

if you've never had the rockers off, chances are it's a lifter, as they dont normally 'come loose', but i have seen it before.

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

ugh....i just wish i knew what it was! everyone has givin me different answers.... I have no idea what it is, but it NEEDS to get fixed, its So bad now im starting to fear for the entire motor... I'm not gonna lie, i have beat on the car pretty bad so i know its my own fault...but that doesnt stop the fact that it has to get fixed asap.

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

Screw It!!! Its going to the Stealer! this friggin car is ticking me off!! (no pun intented)

 

[Mike K]

Sounds like a collapsed lifter or loose rocker. Either can be fixed by you in just a couple of hours. Why pay hundreds to have that done?

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

no, theres no way I'm going to have them do the job, just give me a diagnosis .. anywho... i called a family friend whos the manager of service dept. over at GaryLang, and he told me that lifters never need to be replace on the 3800.... i found that odd because i know people who have needed too....whatever...but he said most likly a loss rocker so i got some 1.9s on the way and ill be puttin them in my self... and tips on an easyer way to do the back bank? it looks like its going to be a bi**h to do....

 

[Fish]

Either loosen the dog bones and rock the engine forward holding it forward with the Ebrake, or loosen the dog bones and use an engine strap to pull it forward, or both.

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

well, having a very limited tool supply...a small collection i have bought from autozone <_< when i did my plugs i just had a friend hold the engine forward lol... should have been there it was hillarious... i guess ill try the ebrake method, just pull the engine forward and set the ebrake? or more to it... im still an amature at this wonderful gtp world....

 

[Fish]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DaytonaGTP25 @ Aug 31 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

well, having a very limited tool supply...a small collection i have bought from autozone <_< when i did my plugs i just had a friend hold the engine forward lol... should have been there it was hillarious... i guess ill try the ebrake method, just pull the engine forward and set the ebrake? or more to it... im still an amature at this wonderful gtp world....[/b]

2 people can really make this work. One pulling on the engine, one pushing the car ready to hit the ebrake. Rock it forward as much as you can, hit the Ebrake. It will hold.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

just go to your local hardware store and get a turnbuckle. remove dogbones, put 2 of the bolts back in and then hook the turnbuckle to it. tighten it up and it will pull the engine forward.

 

[horist]

also put the transmission in neutral ... when I did my plugs I was told this as if it's in park there's a chance of breaking the park tab thing

I just bought a cheap set of tow straps from autozone and used that to pull the engine forward and hold it

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

Cool, thanks for the advice. Just got back from the dealer, wasn't a good day for gtps...there was 6 of em in there lol.....probably the recall was my guess, anyways i had a crowd of techs around my car and they alllll said loose rocker...so there we go. got 1.9s on the way and then the work begins. thanks everyone for your input. after this is done the new exhaust goes on then the 3.4 THEN I'll see ya at the track to pop my cherry....

 

[Fish]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (horist @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

also put the transmission in neutral ... when I did my plugs I was told this as if it's in park there's a chance of breaking the park tab thing

I just bought a cheap set of tow straps from autozone and used that to pull the engine forward and hold it[/b]

How the fuck did I forget neutral? <_< I think I told you that. :lolsign:

 

[horist]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (horist @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

also put the transmission in neutral ... when I did my plugs I was told this as if it's in park there's a chance of breaking the park tab thing

I just bought a cheap set of tow straps from autozone and used that to pull the engine forward and hold it[/b]

How the fuck did I forget neutral? <_< I think I told you that. :lolsign:
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You didn't tell me nothing bish!!!!!


lol ... I think you're right hah

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

do your rockers come with new rocker bolts?

 

[Fish]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (horist @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

also put the transmission in neutral ... when I did my plugs I was told this as if it's in park there's a chance of breaking the park tab thing

I just bought a cheap set of tow straps from autozone and used that to pull the engine forward and hold it[/b]

How the fuck did I forget neutral? <_< I think I told you that. :lolsign:
[/b][/quote]


You didn't tell me nothing bish!!!!!


lol ... I think you're right hah
[/b][/quote]

:lolsign:

I actually still remember the first time meeting you and seeing your car. It was the first 04 I saw on the road and up close. Damn that was awhile ago.

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ilikebmx999 @ Sep 3 2008, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

do your rockers come with new rocker bolts?[/b]

No, they dont come with bolts...but i bought some...

 

[Fish]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ilikebmx999 @ Sep 3 2008, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

do your rockers come with new rocker bolts?[/b]

No, they dont come with bolts...but i bought some...
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Good boy. I hate hearing how people reuse stock rocker bolts. Sure it can be done, but its $15. Dont skimp.

 

[DaytonaGTP25]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ilikebmx999 @ Sep 3 2008, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

do your rockers come with new rocker bolts?[/b]

No, they dont come with bolts...but i bought some...
[/b][/quote]

Good boy. I hate hearing how people reuse stock rocker bolts. Sure it can be done, but its $15. Dont skimp.
[/b][/quote]

No way, I'd never reuse rocker bolts... Hell I try an use new hardware on anything i replace.... i even paid the extra $4 and got the Comp Cams bolts....