3800 ZZP Ported M90 and machined intake manifold?

[vdan02]

Well, yesterday, i went to replace my pully yesterday... and it didnt exactly work out as planned puly had a nick on the ... so i am giving up on replacing pullys, and im thinking about ordering a ported m90 from zzp.... with the full supercharger and pully already pressed....

what can i expect performance wise from zzp's ported s/c, and m achined intake manifold? i really need to get this problem fixed soon, so quick responces are very welcomed....

I will be ordering the ported blower tomorrow, with 3.4 pressed on... and possibly machined intake depending on responces...

Thanks

Dan

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[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by vdan02@Feb 12 2006, 01:55 PM
Well, yesterday, i went to replace my pully yesterday... and it didnt exactly work out as planned puly had a nick on the ... so i am giving up on replacing pullys, and im thinking about ordering a ported m90 from zzp.... with the full supercharger and pully already pressed.... 

what can i expect performance wise from zzp's ported s/c, and m achined intake manifold? i really need to get this problem fixed soon, so quick responces are very welcomed.... 

I will be ordering the ported blower tomorrow, with 3.4 pressed on... and possibly machined intake depending on responces...

Thanks

Dan

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the potring and polishing if your getting both done on the blower and LIM people have seen about 15-20 depending on each car,and other factors, the blower runs cooler which is always a power adder so it will help, id get a 3.2 and get a good tune, a 3.4 is a waste and the 3.2 isnt a huge diff, i was able to drop it with no ported blower or LIM work, and its a nice torque gain, dont think of the 3.4 as wall that requires alot to get past. just gett colder thermoand colder sparks,a nd scan..you should be fine...but make sure you scan, i fyou plan ot ge tmore mods you will end up selling the 3.4 soon anyways, i switched just to see and saw no knock with 3.2 make sure you have little exhasut restiction, DP/u-bend work, even a cat back to a point, if you dont plan on getting headers free up the rest of the system as much as posible try wrapping your crossover or mani's too
and PEMs dont cost much. build it up to handle th 3.2 first then slap it all on , your car will be alot of fun, i ran mid 13's with a sim setup and half race gas mix

 

[phat_ridegt]

if you have them put a pulley on, have them press the mps on. it will make it WAY easier to swap pullies

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

Ported you say?

You mean something like this?:

Took me a whole 2 hours...well, maybe an hour and a half... :lolsign:

 

[vdan02]

interested in doing another sir?

would be willing to slide ya some cashola.... what year is your car... and how many miles are on it... to see if you had any problems getting the supercharger off...

Thanks

Dan

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

I'm such a tease...



No, this is a development mule. We're probably going to be doing some ported blowers soon. I just wanted to do some experimenting with different techniques. We need to CNC model a design, then have it milled. I have a ways to go, before I can start porting blowers for people.

 

[Fish]

Originally posted by sinr247+Feb 12 2006, 02:04 PM-->

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@Feb 12 2006, 01:55 PM
Well, yesterday, i went to replace my pully yesterday... and it didnt exactly work out as planned puly had a nick on the ... so i am giving up on replacing pullys, and im thinking about ordering a ported m90 from zzp.... with the full supercharger and pully already pressed.... 

what can i expect performance wise from zzp's ported s/c, and m achined intake manifold? i really need to get this problem fixed soon, so quick responces are very welcomed.... 

I will be ordering the ported blower tomorrow, with 3.4 pressed on... and possibly machined intake depending on responces...

Thanks

Dan

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the potring and polishing if your getting both done on the blower and LIM people have seen about 15-20 depending on each car,and other factors, the blower runs cooler which is always a power adder so it will help, id get a 3.2 and get a good tune, a 3.4 is a waste and the 3.2 isnt a huge diff, i was able to drop it with no ported blower or LIM work, and its a nice torque gain, dont think of the 3.4 as wall that requires alot to get past. just gett colder thermoand colder sparks,a nd scan..you should be fine...but make sure you scan, i fyou plan ot ge tmore mods you will end up selling the 3.4 soon anyways, i switched just to see and saw no knock with 3.2 make sure you have little exhasut restiction, DP/u-bend work, even a cat back to a point, if you dont plan on getting headers free up the rest of the system as much as posible try wrapping your crossover or mani's too
and PEMs dont cost much. build it up to handle th 3.2 first then slap it all on , your car will be alot of fun, i ran mid 13's with a sim setup and half race gas mix

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[Sinister Drag Designs]

yes, just enough to confuse someone

 

[phat_ridegt]

sorry to jump in...ron what mods do you have to run 13.1

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

Modified 1.9's, ported TB/SC, PEM's, 2.8 pulley, ILGPC IC. It'll do more, but I have some problems that need to be fixed...just need money to do it.

 

[phat_ridegt]

nice...i didnt even know ilgpc had an ic...do you have a link?

 

[phat_ridegt]

so bottom line, no one really answered his question....

take my car for instance....

cammed, i/c'd car, what kind of whp gains would be seen from a ported and polished blower (with and without an HVII)

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

to the wheels, hard to say, maybe about 10, but its the heat soaking that it will help against slightly, blower will stay cooler longer(zzp said this). so for a street car its a nice gain, on a ice cold car , power gains might be a little less,but will still be there

 

[phat_ridegt]

so what do you think...worth 500 shipped w/o a core?

 

[vdan02]

to tell you the truth, i really dont think so... i mean, put that $500 towards an IC that will actually really lower your temps.... and kill that KR... doesnt seem worth that amount of money...

 

[vdan02]

but i mean, its all in what plans you have for your car.... for me, it wouldnt really be worth it... cos' if my charger were to take a shit or anything like that... i would just buy the whipple kit...

if your looking to get as much power out of the stock charger as possible, by all means, port it... and lower the temps... and get some more horse while your at it....

Dan

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

Originally posted by phat_ridegt@Feb 15 2006, 05:04 PM
nice...i didnt even know ilgpc had an ic...do you have a link?

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Long gone...I think about a dozen or so were made; it became the WBS Stg 2/ Intense IC eventually after some changes.