OK.....its about time for a rant....at the risk of souding childish. I have let these little things slide about this system long enough. And feel that its best for anyone looking to do a custom turbo system....to stay as far away from SSP Automotive as possible. They will tell you how..they have put together a ton of systems. They are proffesionals...and work with their customers. That all of there business is repeat business.......well not from me <_< . Here is my list of problems:
1. Downpipe is rubbing on rear head, causing it to cut a slit in the downpipe and tearing up my nice ceramic coating.
2. Downpipe has more bends than a formula track. Im not talking about needed bends either. It looks like the went happy happy joy joy with their crappy pipe bender. There are just odd bends that are entirely un-neccessary.
3. They used oil line that was two small for the drain. They used a -8 AN drain line. This is about .44" diameter. Well for people who dont know, after the oil goes through the turbo, it comes out completely whipped and flows very slowly. If you dont use a hose big enough then it will cause excess pressure. This excess pressure will cause oil to blowby the seals and into the turbine housing causing a white smoke to pour out of your exhaust. Yes.....there is a ton of white smoke that pours out of my exhaust. Recommended oil drain line is -12 AN. Lets not mention the fact that they used a 90* fitting from the turbo, which causes even worse flow for the foamy oil.
4. They dont even know how a turbo flows. They informed me that my compressor was a "reverse flow compressor". Apparently most turbos are designed to decompress air
5. Their idea of pipe trasitions is to take several pipe sizes....IE 2.5"...2.75"....3" and weld them together....instead of using the transition i bought and provided for them.
6. Nothing is their fault......IE...apparently my spark plug boots needed replaced on two of the back cylinders. Apparently they were just falling appart. So they put on new 90* boots for me. Well...i never had a problem with them falling apart....but ok. When I got home later...i had some extra stock wires in my garage. So I was going to use those instead of the 90* wires they concocted... NOPE...CANT DO THAT. Why...because when the designed the rear manifold....they didnt leave room for the straight spark plug boots to fit...so they had to install 90* boots.
7. Back to my downpipe.....did you know my downpipe was about 16 ft long when they were done. Yea...they decided it would be best to run the downpipe down....get rid of my cat (which i OKed) then get rid of my resonator (which i was unaware of till i showed up) then weld the pipe the rest of the exhaust. So I had one long pipe from the turbo to the exhaust tips...with now flanges installed. So I had to cut the pipe below the car in order to ship it. Which means...right now...my dp can only be removed if the rest of the turbo system is removed. . But dont worry....imsure the rear head will eventually cut the downpipe in half for me.
8. Guess how my rear manifold connects top my y pipe....its just simply slid into it. Thats it....the clamp they provided does nothing...at all.
9. When they made my rear manifold, they warped my rear manifold flange. So i had an exhaust leak for a month.....until I had it grounded down.
10. When I picked up the car...they had turned it on and had been powerbraking it to see if it boosted. Well...it did...but apparently i was detonating at 1 lb of boost. They were completely convinced i was detonating. Well when i got the car home, i did a spark plug swap to 104s....had 605s in. Well there was the problem...they cracked 2 of my rear spark plugs...two...how did they not notice it or see it....
Now i will give them a slight benefit of the doubt. I only gave them a week to put this kit together. But this was after they said they could do it in a week. They siad...it would be tight but they can do it. So I got a verbal quote of ~ $1400 for this job. By the time they were done it cost me $2500......what am i suppose to do. Had i known they were going to charge this much....i would have never taken it to them. I would have learned to weld and done it myself. They shoot past it by over a grand.....all because i didnt get a written quote. But apparently...they were "helping" me out. They were charging me for all the labor. So after I provided everything...except some of the piping and oiling.....after I told them I didnt have a lot of money to dump on this.....after garaunteeing me they would help me out...and work with me.....they charged me $2500..... Well in comes my awesome dad...and helps me pay for it. Which I am still paying off to him right now.
So I am stuck with a slowly degrading system, that cost me the price of a pre-built turbo system.....and will keep sucking money from me.
With any luck...ill be able to rebuild my system...myself....the right way.
So....run...run as far away from SSP as possible. (sorry to who-evers dad works there...but none of this is false)
1. Downpipe is rubbing on rear head, causing it to cut a slit in the downpipe and tearing up my nice ceramic coating.
2. Downpipe has more bends than a formula track. Im not talking about needed bends either. It looks like the went happy happy joy joy with their crappy pipe bender. There are just odd bends that are entirely un-neccessary.
3. They used oil line that was two small for the drain. They used a -8 AN drain line. This is about .44" diameter. Well for people who dont know, after the oil goes through the turbo, it comes out completely whipped and flows very slowly. If you dont use a hose big enough then it will cause excess pressure. This excess pressure will cause oil to blowby the seals and into the turbine housing causing a white smoke to pour out of your exhaust. Yes.....there is a ton of white smoke that pours out of my exhaust. Recommended oil drain line is -12 AN. Lets not mention the fact that they used a 90* fitting from the turbo, which causes even worse flow for the foamy oil.
4. They dont even know how a turbo flows. They informed me that my compressor was a "reverse flow compressor". Apparently most turbos are designed to decompress air
5. Their idea of pipe trasitions is to take several pipe sizes....IE 2.5"...2.75"....3" and weld them together....instead of using the transition i bought and provided for them.
6. Nothing is their fault......IE...apparently my spark plug boots needed replaced on two of the back cylinders. Apparently they were just falling appart. So they put on new 90* boots for me. Well...i never had a problem with them falling apart....but ok. When I got home later...i had some extra stock wires in my garage. So I was going to use those instead of the 90* wires they concocted... NOPE...CANT DO THAT. Why...because when the designed the rear manifold....they didnt leave room for the straight spark plug boots to fit...so they had to install 90* boots.
7. Back to my downpipe.....did you know my downpipe was about 16 ft long when they were done. Yea...they decided it would be best to run the downpipe down....get rid of my cat (which i OKed) then get rid of my resonator (which i was unaware of till i showed up) then weld the pipe the rest of the exhaust. So I had one long pipe from the turbo to the exhaust tips...with now flanges installed. So I had to cut the pipe below the car in order to ship it. Which means...right now...my dp can only be removed if the rest of the turbo system is removed.
. But dont worry....imsure the rear head will eventually cut the downpipe in half for me. 8. Guess how my rear manifold connects top my y pipe....its just simply slid into it. Thats it....the clamp they provided does nothing...at all.
9. When they made my rear manifold, they warped my rear manifold flange. So i had an exhaust leak for a month.....until I had it grounded down.
10. When I picked up the car...they had turned it on and had been powerbraking it to see if it boosted. Well...it did...but apparently i was detonating at 1 lb of boost. They were completely convinced i was detonating. Well when i got the car home, i did a spark plug swap to 104s....had 605s in. Well there was the problem...they cracked 2 of my rear spark plugs...two...how did they not notice it or see it....
Now i will give them a slight benefit of the doubt. I only gave them a week to put this kit together. But this was after they said they could do it in a week. They siad...it would be tight but they can do it. So I got a verbal quote of ~ $1400 for this job. By the time they were done it cost me $2500......what am i suppose to do. Had i known they were going to charge this much....i would have never taken it to them. I would have learned to weld and done it myself. They shoot past it by over a grand.....all because i didnt get a written quote. But apparently...they were "helping" me out. They were charging me for all the labor. So after I provided everything...except some of the piping and oiling.....after I told them I didnt have a lot of money to dump on this.....after garaunteeing me they would help me out...and work with me.....they charged me $2500..... Well in comes my awesome dad...and helps me pay for it. Which I am still paying off to him right now.
So I am stuck with a slowly degrading system, that cost me the price of a pre-built turbo system.....and will keep sucking money from me.
With any luck...ill be able to rebuild my system...myself....the right way.
So....run...run as far away from SSP as possible. (sorry to who-evers dad works there...but none of this is false)
